14300Re: Covenanter Groups
- Jan 11, 2006--- In email@example.com, "Sean McDonald"
>What you are seeing is folks trying not to offend others with whom
> It is interesting for me to note how many non-responses may be
> furnished as responses to a few simple questions.
they one day hope to have fellowship. But be that as it may, there
were answers given.
> "1. How many different 'Covenanter' groups are there (i.e. groupsThere are scattered families that for the time being are pretty much
> which hold to the binding obligation of the Solemn League and
alone. There are families in PA that together associate with the
TrueCovenanter group. There is the RPNA. I cannot verify whether or
not the man responsible for Covenanter.org still believes the things
promoted on that site.
> Is that correct? or are there more than theI'm not sure who your calling the original Steelites, so that
> RPNA societies on the one hand, and the society (or societies)
> associated with the "original Steelite" group? What is that group's
> name (is it, as stated on the TrueCovenanter.com site, "The
> Covenanted Reformed Presbyterian Church")?
questions hard to answer -- the RPCNA used to hold to the doctrines
that Steele and Lusk sought to maintain when they formed the Reformed
Presbytery. Dodson did much to get "Steelite" stuff out there for
folks to read. Maybe you mean that his group were the original
Steelites? I just don't know how to answer that. But those
originally associated with Covenanter.org, called themselves the
Covenanted Reformed Presbyterian Church. After many of us fled from
Dodson, TrueCovenanter.com took the same name, being essentially the
same people, believing the same Reformed Presbyterian doctrines, sans
Dodson and his peculiar sins.
> How do Jim Dodson, Derek Edwards, and Frank DiLella figure into allLike I said, I don't even know if Dodson maintains the same doctrines
> of this? Are they associated with any of the groups now in
> existence, or do any of them today form their own
> independent "Covenanter" societies?
anymore. You'll have to ask him.
As for Derek Edwards and Frank DiLella -- several of us from our
"group" (the TrueCovenanter.com group) have been in contact with the
both of them. The communication has been positive and encouraging.
Both Mr. Edwards and Mr. DiLella still maintain Covenanter
distinctives. Which brings something to mind:
HOW SWRB.COM CAN REMOVE FRED DILELLA'S WRITINGS, AND POST A STATEMENT
THAT HE HAS ABANDONED THE COVENANTED REFORMATION, AND YET KEEP
WRITINGS UP BY JIM DODSON, IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION.
Fred DiLella is NO enemy of the Covenanted Reformation. Dodson,
> I was rather surprised to see Ps. 36:1-4 quoted against Mr. Dodson.What if I quote 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-7 against him, would that also suprise you?
> Would it not have been sufficient to say that you disagree with him,I speak not about a disagreement, or about a dispute over certain
> or with certain actions of his (I do not know the situation), rather
> than vilifying him on a public forum, without giving him opportunity
> to defend himself?
actions, but against gross and scandalous sins which deserve the
punishment of death by the civil magistrate.
Feel free to email him, or even call him:
Ask him about what I wrote about him here. If he responds with
anything other than, "Yes, everything Jerry said is true. He's right.
Yes, yes, I did that, that's me" or something along those lines, then
you let me know -- I will drive over and have a talk with him. He
will then contact you with the correct information after our talk.
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