14053Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Re: Steelites
- Nov 6, 2005
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edgar A. Ibarra Jr." <puritanpresbyterian@...>
<snip, good stuff>
> Here is where we get to the heart of your question. The RPCNA
> held to the Covenanters' testimony until they changed their
> constitution in the mid-1800's and no longer held that the Solemn
> League & Covenant was binding upon the United States of America,
> although I am not sure if they still believe it is on the United
> Kingdom. They also adopted other items that were contrary to the
> Standards of Westminster and further broke their Covenanted oath.
Edgar, as usual, casts this particular part of the history according to his
bias, and without the charity the other brothers (us) deserve. He (and the
other Steelites) insist upon saying that we willfully defected, when the
truth of the matter is that we, as a denomination, became convinced of
certain errors within the WCF and sought to, as we should, continue the
Reformation by becoming more and more consistent to the Biblical standards
for the Church.
There were mistakes made; some of which have been repaired, some of which
are being repaired, and some that are beginning to be known. But to freeze
the Church to a particular age, calling it perfect, is wrong in the face of
a clear conviction that the secondary standards are wrong in a particular
Also, there is no way that the Covenants can, as they stand, be applied to
the US states. They were not properly part of the covenanted lands, though
some early Covenanters misunderstood the legal position of the colonies and
sought to lay the Covenants upon them without altering them to fit the
changed context. The Colonies were not part of England, but of the British
Empire. Should the USA be under covenanats *very similar to* the Scottish
Covenants? Absolutely, but we cannot see ourselves as wed because of
someone elses' marriage vows.
> I know that my post will generate many upset posts and make re-
> stir debates long debated on this e-group once again. That seems to
Not upset, just disappointed that you continue to misrepresent us as willful
rebels rather than brothers seeking to be true to God and His Covenant(s),
properly understood and applied..
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