11019Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Passive obedience v. Political Dissidence
- Sep 4, 2004Thanks for your reply Martin. I was actually quoting Rutherford
supporting the view that a "power" *must* be a minister for good and
a tyrant is not "power" but a "licentious deviation of a power".
(rom 13:4) Q.IX Yes Rutherford did not take the simplistic view,
neither did he, nor I claim he did, in this passage. My next
paragraph was an attempt to respond to his argument.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Martin"
> Hi Parnell,Whether the "Cameronian" political philosophy differs from that
> I agree that we must be careful in interpretting Rutherford.
espoused by Rutherford wasn't within the scope of my previous post.
My post with the Rutherford quotes simply was to show that
Rutherford didn't take the simplistic view of Romans 13 which was
offered. Whether or not Rutherford and and the later Presbyterians
like Cameron agreed is something that can be investigated in its own
>political philosophy sufficiently to answer that. From what I've
> As for Cameron versus Calvin. I honestly haven't studied Calvin's
seen thus far, Calvin is quoted by various opposing philosophical
camps (no surprise there). I haven't spent the time to duly
ascertain exactly what Calvin's political philosophy was. If you
have some available information on that, I'd be happy to review it.
>I will not be able to check this forum until September 18th.
> Anyways, I'm leaving right away here for my vacation; during which
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J. Parnell McCarter
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> Subject: RE: [Covenanted Reformation] Passive obedience v.
>philosophy of Richard Cameron (that Cameron had at the end of his
> There were many covenanters who did not have the political
life). Most Covenanters joined the established Church of Scotland
after the end of King James II's reign.
>too. Martin, I think it can be shown that the "Cameronian"
> We must be very careful in our interpretation of Rutherford
political philosophy differs from that espoused by Rutherford.
>subject, who produced the first great systematic theology of the
> I suggest though that we begin with Calvin's writings on the
reformed faith- then work our way from there. Martin, do you really
believe the political philosophy of Richard Cameron (that Cameron
had at the end of his life) is the same as the political philosophy
that Calvin had throughout his life as a Protestant?
> - Parnell McCarter
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