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11014Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Passive obedience v. Political Dissidence

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  • Martin
    Sep 4 4:22 AM
      Hi Parnell,
       
      I agree that we must be careful in interpretting Rutherford.  Whether the "Cameronian" political philosophy differs from that espoused by Rutherford wasn't within the scope of my previous post.  My post with the Rutherford quotes simply was to show that Rutherford didn't take the simplistic view of Romans 13 which was offered.  Whether or not Rutherford and and the later Presbyterians like Cameron agreed is something that can be investigated in its own right.
       
      As for Cameron versus Calvin.  I honestly haven't studied Calvin's political philosophy sufficiently to answer that.  From what I've seen thus far, Calvin is quoted by various opposing philosophical camps (no surprise there).  I haven't spent the time to duly ascertain exactly what Calvin's political philosophy was.  If you have some available information on that, I'd be happy to review it.
       
      Anyways, I'm leaving right away here for my vacation; during which I will not be able to check this forum until September 18th.
       
      Martin
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      Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:12 PM
      Subject: RE: [Covenanted Reformation] Passive obedience v. Political Dissidence

      There were many covenanters who did not have the political philosophy of Richard Cameron (that Cameron had at the end of his life).   Most Covenanters joined the established Church of Scotland after the end of King James II's reign.

       

      We must be very careful in our interpretation of Rutherford too.  Martin, I think it can be shown that the "Cameronian" political philosophy differs from that espoused by Rutherford .

       

      I suggest though that we begin with Calvin's writings on the subject, who produced the first great systematic theology of the reformed faith- then work our way from there.  Martin, do you really believe the political philosophy of Richard Cameron (that Cameron had at the end of his life) is the same as the political philosophy that Calvin had throughout his life as a Protestant?

       

      - Parnell McCarter

       

       

       

       


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