Re: [cosmacelf] RCA COSMAC Game Manual II
- I'm happy to report that I've heard back from Intersil's legal department, and have been able to add the following section to the FAQ ( http://www.cosmacelf.com/forumfaq.html ):============RCA Documentation Copyright InformationDoug Balog of Intersil's legal department granted cosmacelf.com permission to publish CDP1800 series data sheets on April 3, 2001, under the condition that it was clear that the site had no affiliation with Intersil and makes no representations about their products.On July 1, 2013, Paul Bernkopf of Intersil's legal department authorized some additional permissions with the following email: "Subject to (a) you not removing any copyright or other IP ownership labels, (b) subject to Mr. Balog's prior requirements, and (c) to the extent Intersil Corp. and its subsidiaries ('INTERSIL') has the right to grant permission, Intersil authorizes you to reproduce the documents cited below on your website."The documents referred to in the aforementioned email were:
============The documents I specified are the union of the set of documents Bob DiPippo has in his collection and some documents I've accumulated; it's a wealth of information that can now be made available to the hobbyist community. If other documents get dug up, I can run those past Intersil as well; their legal department continues to be impressively responsive and generous. I chose to be specific in my request, as I believed it would have been more difficult to get blanket permission to publish anything 1802 related --- lawyers need specificity, for good reason.I'll likely have time to start some scanning this week. Please be patient while we work to get these documents scanned and online. I'll announce new documents as they become available on cosmacelf.com. If anyone already has any of these documents scanned into PDF form, please let me know at dave@... .Thanks!Dave
- "Operator Manual for the RCA COSMAC Development System II CDP18S005"
- "Evaluation Kit Manual for the RCA CDP1802 COSMAC Microprocessor"
- "Fixed-Point Binary Arithmetic Subroutines for RCA COSMAC Microprocessors"
- "Floating-Point Arithmetic Subroutines for RCA COSMAC Microprocessors"
- "User Manual for the CDP1802 COSMAC Microprocessor"
- "COSMAC Microboard Computer Systems" (appears to be a flyer of some sort)
- "Microprocessor/Memory Applications Briefs - A compendium of the most useful CDP1800 Series microprocessor/memory application hints that have appeared in recent issues of the RCA Solid State Newsletter"
- "RCA COSMAC VIP Instruction Manual for VP-111"
- "COSMAC Microprocessor Product Guide" (seems to be catalog of sorts with abbreviated data sheets)
- "RCA COSMAC Microboard Computer CDP18S601" (flyer)
- "COSMAC Floppy Disk System II" (flyer)
- "COSMAC Development Systems CDP18S005, CDP18S007V1, and CDP182007V3" (flyer)
- Hi steve: did you get a chance to look for mpm-206 and 207?
Subject: Re: [cosmacelf] COSMAC Dev Sys
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 16:33:54 -0700
To: firstname.lastname@example.orgThe most useful thing would be the first couple of pages of code from mpm-207 the floating point routines. That would let me know if they're different from what i have today.Thanks very much.Bill
On 2013-08-24, at 3:23 PM, "Steve Gemeny" <steve@...> wrote:Bill,While I'm lunching with the scanner next week I'll slip in part of the timeshare manual. That should at least give you a chance to see if it really is what you're interested in.Steve
Sent by my large thumbs via tiny soft iKeys...
On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:44 PM, bill rowe <bill_rowe_ottawa@...> wrote:Steve: i remain very keen on the floating point and binary routines.
On 2013-08-23, at 1:33 PM, "Steve Gemeny" <steve@...> wrote:
Actually, I’m sorry to say, I haven’t begun.
It wasn’t clear there was anyone interested so I didn’t start.
The MPM-208 Ops Man for COSMAC Dev Sys is ~136 pages… that’ll take some doing.
I think I may try cutting the staples loose and scanning it as 2 sided 11x17. Unfortunately that’ll mean it is largely unreadable unless it gets printed out on 11x17, folded into 8.5x11 and re-stapled.
The MPM-216 Ops Man COSMAC Dev Sys II 18S005 is a bit smaller @ 124 pages… Same problem though.
The other question is, while I have them, and am willing to scan them for the greater good, it is not clear that both are covered under the release obtained by Dave.
In the case of MPM-216 the title - “Operator Manual for COSMAC Development System II CDP-18S005” exists in the list but there is no mention of the title “Operator Manual for COSMAC Development System” nor is it referenced by number as MPM-208.
Dave lists the title, but not the specific manual number in his communications with Intersil. Since RCA was in the habit of changing the manual number for newer releases there could still be some confusion.
I’ll ask Dave to consider a more detailed listing of title and document number if he decides to revisit this with his Intersil legal contacts.
I’ll also consider opinions for the gallery on these points.
[Attachment(s) from Buzz included below]Attachment(s) from Buzz
I was wondering if you made any progress in scanning those manuals you spoke of.
I am especially interested in:
MPM-208,Ops Man for COSMAC Dev Sys,Sgemeny
MPM-216,Ops Man COSMAC Dev Sys II 18S005,Sgemeny
I have a COSMAC Dev Sys setting in my basement and would like to get it running again.
I used to have all the COSMAC documents but over the years and several basement floods I have lost them.
To run the system I have an 8" floppy Single Sided Single Density (SSSD) with RCA DOS 4.0.
Probably the last one in existence.
If I can get the system running I can make/contribute copies of the RCA DOS 4.0 to anyone wanting one
if they supply the SSSD 8" floppy. They are hard to find.
Really great news, and so fast!!!
Perhaps collecting a list (CSV or Excel format) in the files folder (or
GoogleDOCS or some other file sharing medium) we could all include our own
holdings in the list and avoid duplication of scanning effort - all with
one carefully contrived effort.
In looking through my collection of RCA Manuals that I'd be willing to scan
Man #,Shore Title,WHO
MPM-201A,Users Man CDP1802,Sgemeny
MPM-202,Time Share Manual,Sgemeny
MPM-208,Ops Man for COSMAC Dev Sys,Sgemeny
MPM-212,Inst. Man MicroTerminal,Sgemeny
MPM-216,Ops Man COSMAC Dev Sys II 18S005,Sgemeny
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Subject: [cosmacelf] Re: RCA COSMAC Game Manual II
This is very good news. I'm impressed that it happened so fast and with
positive results. I guess I was expecting much more red tape.
Did this list include the RCA COSMAC Game Manual (original & II)?
--- In email@example.com, "urrossum@..." <mark@...> wrote:
> > I'm happy to report that I've heard back from Intersil's legal
department, and have been able to add the following section to the FAQ (
> Wow, Dave - that's fantastic! And incredibly fast, too! Thanks very much
for handling this!
> > The documents referred to in the aforementioned email were:
> So, in the "look a gift horse in the mouth" category, is there any reason
that the document "Timesharing Manual for the RCA CDP1802 COSMAC
Microprocessor" was excluded? I'd really like to get a copy of that one.
> > I'll likely have time to start some scanning this week. Please be
patient while we work to get these documents scanned and online. I'll
announce new documents as they become available on cosmacelf.com. If anyone
already has any of these documents scanned into PDF form, please let me know
at dave@ .
> Again, I'd be happy to aid in scanning. I'm located in the Silicon Valley
area, if anyone is local, but of course there's FedEx.
> Some documents that I have currently in PDF form (mostly scanned not by
me, and I don't know if any of them have already been authorized for
> - Several versions of the Intersil 1802 series PDF datasheets, including
some that no longer seem to be available on their web site;
> - Scans of datasheets, presumably RCA but not always identified as such,
including CDP1804, CDP1861, CDP1869, and the TA6889/TA6890 pair;
> - Scans of three versions of the "User Manual for the COSMAC
Microprocessor": MPM-101, MPM-201A, and MPM-201B;
> - A scan of "Design Ideas for the CDP1802 COSMAC Microprocessor", BMP-802;
> - A scan of a white paper, entitled "A Radiation-Hardened Bulk Si-Gate
CMOS Microprocessor Family" by personnel at RCA and Sandia Labs(5 pages);
> - A scan of the "RCA COSMAC Microboard Computer CDP18S604B" manual;
> - A scan of all 800 pages of the "RCA Solid State Databook - CMOS
Microprocessors, Memories, and Peripherals" as distributed by Hamilton
> As I mentioned, most of these I slurped from the Internet somewhere (some
of them here!), so credit (and possible "mechanical rights") for the scans
are definitely due to others. However, perhaps these titles could be
included in the next batch of requests to Intersil's lawyers.
> Again, many thanks for your efforts, Dave!
> Mark Moulding
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