Re: No Coke, Peksi [sic]
- On 15/05/2013 12:58, Douglas Koller wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 12:55:21 +0100 From: Sam StutterThe Simayamka could possibly have words for this. In Siye, Coke is easy: 'kokakola'. Orangina is 'olamkina' [ola~tSina]. Pepsi presents a problem. The maximum form for a Siye syllable is CV~. /pepsi/ does not work /pesi/ is [peSi] "peshi" if it were Russian while /pepi/ is [peCi] "peshchi" if it were Russian. It depends on which franchise lobbies the Guild of Scholars most effectively before they release the next Catalog of New and Acceptable Words.
>> Subject: Re: No Coke, Peksi [sic] (was: RE: Typical
>> lexicon size in natlangs) To:
>> Wait, what has this got to do with conlangs again? :)
> ObConlang: How do you say Coke, Pepsi, and Orangina in
> your conlangs? There, now you're covered. ;)
The Pi'naax of Ka'manu, the speakers of Na'gifi Fasu'xa, live on a devastated ecology in c. 14,000 CE. So they wouldn't have a term of fizzy non-nutritious beverages.
- On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Anthony Miles <mamercus88@...> wrote:
> Even in an impoverished environment humans or something like them will expand vocabulary.Sure. But this thread discusses "typical lexicon size", and Gary
Shannon and H. S. Teoh proposed a "bootstrap lexicon size" as a
meaningful measure. And I'm just pointing out that I don't think it
would be a good metric, because if you use it for many languages, and
the resulting size varies, let's say, between X-10% and X+10% for some
X, that does not offer any insight about the *typical* lexicon size of
the languages so tested. Systems of vastly different complexity can
arise from similarly simple foundations (cellular automata are a clear
example of that).