Re: No Coke, Peksi [sic] (was: RE: Typical lexicon size in natlangs)
- I tell you what annoys me - people who try and tell me that diet Coke or caffeine-free Coke tastes different to normal Coke _and_ is, for some reason, revolting.
I can tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi though - Pepsi tastes more like Coke than Coke - if you see what I mean. And both are inferior in the eyes of Orangina. Wait, what has this got to do with conlangs again? :)
"No e na'l cu barri"
On 15 May 2013, at 11:31, George Corley <gacorley@...> wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla'' <
> elena.valhalla@...> wrote:
>> On 2013-05-14 at 23:00:59 -0400, Douglas Koller wrote:
>>> Can a blindfolded taste-test be far behind? Long-shot of our hapless
>> taster at the mall...The big reveal...The squeal of delight...
>> we did an informal one with our friends (poured in another room, brought
>> to the tasters by somebody else, but then I'm not 100% that the one who
>> poured did stay in the other room all of the time)
>> everybody was able to distinguish between bottled coca cola and bottled
>> pepsi cola as sold in Italy (I don't know if the taste changes when
>> using high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar)
> I haven't had cola with sugar, but I can tell from other sodas that the
> taste will probably be very different. Cane sugar has a very different
> kind of sweet from high fructose corn syrup.
- On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Anthony Miles <mamercus88@...> wrote:
> Even in an impoverished environment humans or something like them will expand vocabulary.Sure. But this thread discusses "typical lexicon size", and Gary
Shannon and H. S. Teoh proposed a "bootstrap lexicon size" as a
meaningful measure. And I'm just pointing out that I don't think it
would be a good metric, because if you use it for many languages, and
the resulting size varies, let's say, between X-10% and X+10% for some
X, that does not offer any insight about the *typical* lexicon size of
the languages so tested. Systems of vastly different complexity can
arise from similarly simple foundations (cellular automata are a clear
example of that).