Re: I Ching + finnegans wake + McLuhan
- Maybe it's some kind of leet comedy which requires comprehension of
Mandarin, (what I'm guessing is) Hindi, Media Theory and Irish
Hey! I get it! It's hilarious everyone
On 3 Nov 2010, at 15:16, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:14:51 -0200, the ursprachist ursprach wrote:
>> " 六位時成，時乘六龍以御天 " : ऋतुसंहार;
>> ऋतु + 爻辭 ? ऋतुः ( 爻一 वसन्तः
>> [image: Aries.svg]
> ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
- Den 6. nov. 2010 kl. 22.15 skreiv Matthew Turnbull:
> An aside that this whole thing made me think ofYes, awesome and (not) a little frightening.
> Anyway, I remember something about them including an encodedThat must be the "watermark" they are talking about.
> english message in the genome as proof that they had made it and
> not just grown some mycoplasms and said "hey guys, check it out, we
> totally did a total genome transformation on these guys here!"
> Also junk DNA is pretty important, not at all as informationSure, redundancy is a pillar of the biological quality control systems.
> storage though, except in that I understand it contains many of the
> splicing sequences in higher eucaryotes. I understand it's mostly
> structural in nature, kinda like the paper and binding in a book is
> alot heftier than the ink that makes the words, but important too,
> despite not containing any real information. Also I'd like to point
> out that although it's impossible to say why such things are the
> way they are, the redundancy provided by wobble pairings with the
> final nucleotide in codons in the ribosome greatly contributes to
> correct synthesis of protiens,
> so it's kinda like they're using a two base codon instead of aI agree, there are some amino acids that we could have done without,
> three base codon for alot of the amino acids, you can notice the
> pattern right away if you look at the chart, for alot of the amino
> acids the third nucleotide is redundant, because the amino acid is
> specified by the first two alone, and honestly glutamic acid vs.
> aspartic acid is pretty much nothing, so most of the time a mis-
> incorporation there won't be the
> worst thing that could of happened.
like isoleucine, for instance, but having them around safeguards
> OT @Lars : RNA world = best origin of life hypothesis, or no?At least I'm pretty sure RNA preceded DNA. But I think even RNA is a
result of evolution. RNA synthesis and replication can be done much
simpler than the DNA stuff, but in a conceivable protobiological
environment it still will be too complicated to form spontaneously, I
think. Life is a self-sustaining process, and it probably originated
when some non-organic self-sustaining process became able to improve
its sustainability, for example by producing raw materials for the
process. Recipes to preserve the production method and the identity
of the proto-organism would have to be the next stage. But it
probably was based on something simpler than nucleotides, for which I
think the first role was energy transfer. The primary molecules for
life in my opinion are: ATP, iron sulfide, and lipid bilayers with
catalytic properties, or having embedded some molecule with catalytic
properties. Proteins, in my opinion, are secondary, despite their name.
> Obconlang : I was wondering about making a language that would beYeah, you have to include some of that conlang stuff, too. Hopefully
> coded into DNA, but never have gotten around to it yet, I think it
> could be neat though, instead of initiation sites, you could have
> verb-phrase recognition consensus sequences, lol!
now they won't throw us out.
But it is a neat idea. A microscopic language or code that can be
read and written with the aid of enzymes might have some use. DNA
isn't the only way to do it either.