Re: Why grammar is so complex a subject
- On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:50, Cian Ross wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:35, Gary Shannon wrote:Most current palaeoanthropology I've read recently regards human language as a
> > Counter argument: For emerging proto-humans in a
> > rudamentary hunter-gatherer society there are a very
> > limited number of things that need to be discussed,
> > and the ways of putting those things together into a
> > single utterance are mathematically very limited. "Me
> > goat see", "Goat me see", "Me see goat", "Goat see
> > me.", "See goat me.", "See me goat." Which, for
> > reasons of survival, would have to be differentiated
> > in meaning from "Tiger see me.", "See tiger me.", etc.
> I'm not quite comfortable with at least one assumption you seem to be
> making here. Why would language even at a very early stage necessarily
> be limited to matters of immediate physical survival? Language doesn't
> seem to be necessary for survival at all: AFAIK humans are the only
> species that use syntactic language as such and while we're very
> successful we're not alone in being successful. I have to wonder if
> language more likely started from interpersonal interactions and then
> later turned "outwards" to deal with other matters?
form of grooming. A form that could groom over a distance, furthermore.
It was only after the "conceptual breakthrough" that simultaneously led to the
development of art, that language-as-grooming, language-as-warning, and
language-as-training, and a heap of other functions of homo sapiens language
> Cian Ross
Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
You ask, what is the most important thing?
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
- I'm working on the International Conlang Creation Month (
http://incocremo.wordpress.com/ ), which was previously covered here
on the list.
I'm going isolated on this one (yes, if you've seen my posts, this is
a shock.) because it's easier and I'm lazy :). If you want to see my
progress so far, go to http://eosp.wordpress.com/ .