Re: Advanced English to become official!
- On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:43:30 -0800, David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...> wrote:
>I was just looking over your page. A couple questions:You could use a hyphen (mid-guard) or an apostrophe (mid'guard).
>-How would AE differentiate between the [dZ] in a word like
>"language" and the "dg" in a made-up word like "midguard"?
>-Same goes for something like "missionary" and "vishnu",Why would you want to write vowels which are not pronounced in the first
>the first with a reduced vowel between the [S] and [n], and
>the latter without?
place? Ideally, you don't, so I left them out as much as possible.
>-What is the difference between the onset of "gem" and thePhonetically none, but I chose dg and dj to stay closer to the original
>onset of "joy"?
spelling. dj would only be used for words originally spelled with j,
otherwise dg is used.
>-Curious: Why did you use "ae" for schwa, rather than "a",I chose this to distinct between normal a and schwa. The carrot [V] is just
>when you use "a" for carrot [V]?
a short a, so I wrote it as such.
>-According to your chart, you use "a" for [V] and [A]/[Q].Since [Q] is closer to a than to o, I chose to write it with a.
>Does this mean "cot" and "cut" would be spelled the same?
Even if I had chosen "o", there would be some other words with then
>-Not familiar with British pronunciation. Does the "i" inIt's a French word. The i is long, as in beet.
>"technique" rhyme with the "i" in "bit" or the "ee" in "beet"?
>-Curious: Why no consonant for the (inter)dental fricatives?You'll have to take into consideration the vast amount of non-native
>There are lots of minimal pairs: dare/there/their; die/thy; tie/thigh;
speakers, which now outnumber the native speakers. Most of them don't have a
th, so I thought it better to axe it.
>-Also, "s" is *always* voiced before a vowel? So "sue" and "zoo"Basically yes. A distinction would be unneccessary here.
>are pronounced the same: [zu]?
Everyone should be able to understand "Sue goes to the zoo" regardless is
the s is voiced or not.
>-Oh, interesting. Do you pronounce "v" and "w" the same?Yes. The difference is too small to warrant separate letters, so get rid of
a superfluent letter :D
>Neat stuff!Thanks :)
Pascal A. Kramm, author of:
Ichwara Prana: http://www.choton.org/ichwara/
Advanced English: http://www.choton.org/ae/
- Quoting Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:17:37 -0400, Christopher WrightThere's variants of English that've got it (phonetically) in words like "girl"
> <dhasenan@...> wrote:
> > Schwa is a reduced vowel;
> Schwa is a mid central vowel. In English, a short schwa is the realisation
> of several reduced vowels.
> > in spectrograms,
> > you always tell it because it's extremely short
> Not always so. /@:/ exists in the Real World, including in Sinhalese.