204155Re: Universal language for communicating with space aliens
- Jul 27 8:09 AMHello, this discussion is very interesting. My (human) conlang draga
dealt with some of these questions for years. Eventually, it settled upon
a predicate-argument structure, but what made things really work and made
the language fully extensible (and by no means minimalistic) was the
implementation of a "relator" class of particles to explicate what the
relationship between the predicate and its arguments might be. However,
only a predicate is absolutely necessary within any given phrase.
I'll use the example y'all have already been discussing, but might I also
point out that - "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" -
does not necessarily have any Object in it in the first place?
*AGT=agency (not Agent)
xe'a fo qsompi zwe'a yrlala, a phyí'o:
INT IRR falling tree forest-LOC, IRR sound?
"If tree were to fall in forest, would [there be] sound?"
xe'a fo phyí'o qsompi yrlala, a zwe'a:
INT IRR sound falling forest-LOC, IRR tree?
"If sound (of) falling [is] in forest, would [it be] tree?"
xe'a fo zwe'a phyí'o yrlala, a qsompi:
INT IRR tree sound forest-LOC, IRR fall
"If a noisy tree is in the forest, would [it be] falling?"
"Is that a sound? What is that sound?"
"Is something falling? Did it fall?"
"Is it in the forest?"
"Is it a tree?"
fo qsompi, a phyí'o zwe'a:
IRR fall, IRR sound tree
"If [it] falls, tree sounds"
fo qsompic, a phyí'o zwe'a:
IRR fall-1p, IRR sound tree
"If I fall, tree sounds" -or, less likely - "If I cause a fall, tree
fo qsompic, a phyí'o zwe'a, dá'a yrlala:
IRR fall-1p, IRR sound tree, CON forest-LOC
"If I fall - or, less likely, cause a fall, - tree sounds [specifically,
when the fall happens] in the forest"
fo qsompixx, a phyí'o zwe'a:
IRR fall-1p-AGT, IRR sound tree
"If I cause a fall, tree sounds" (Technically could mean myself, the tree
or anything else I might cause to fall)
fo qsompi zwe'axx, a phyí'o:
IRR fall tree-1p-AGT, IRR sound
"If I cause tree to fall, [there will be] sound"
fo qsompi zwe'a yrlalaxx , a phyí'o:
IRR fall tree forest-LOC-1p-AGT, IRR sound
"If tree falls (and) I make it happen in the forest, [there will be] sound"
"Fall! I hope [it] falls."
"Hopefully, or maybe [that's a] tree." (possibly also "Turn into a tree!")
"Hopefully [we're, it's, etc] in the forest / going into the forest." or
"Go in the forest!"
"What? What is it/that? Is that so? Etc."
These show how noun/verb/subject/object categories are pretty much
meaningless in the language. Unfortunately, only one relator was
necessary in the examples - "da'a", which happens to be at the meta-phrase
level. But, in this language even phrases are related as Predicate and
Arguments. The word level relators indicate relationships such as
attribution, correlation/identity, association, composition,
benfactor/benificiary, "functioning as", portionality. These as well as
the phrase level relators make relativization very straightforward and
As for the aliens - according to abductees and contactees, it seems that
they communicate telepathically ;)
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