I seem to have created a monster...

To reply to the latest crop of monsters:

(a) P.Austin keeps making wrong assertions faster than light

communication is possible due to quantum teleportation variants.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

(b) Logan Kearsley: "Fun fact: 'languages' in the sense used by

linguists are also

'languages' in the sense used by programmers & computer scientists.

The reverse, however, as you have just said, is not true. In other

words, 'language' (LING) is a hyponym of 'language' (CS)."

--true. However, from my point of view as a mathematician, the thing

is that the CS notion

of "languages" is something completely mathematically definable. And

can prove theorems about it. The linguist notion of "languages" not

so. I simply do not know, in the sense of mathematical precision,

what is meant by their word "language." Or such

subconcepts as "nouns." Want to prove a theorem about "all languages"?

(E.g. theorem: every language must have nouns?) Good luck. Far as I

can see, you haven't got the foundational definitions, and until you

do, you've no hope of proving

such theorems or of true understanding ("true understanding" means

ability to prove theorems). Also far as I can see, all theorems that

have been proved, have been about sub-classes of the linguist

"language" concept, which CAN be defined.

(c) Lorinda J. Taylor:

The chances are that our first contact will be with a more primitive

species that we meet by going to their planet.

--I think that's untrue. First of all, "going to a planet" is

extremely hard and will

take very long time. Likely travel speeds 0.001c.

Far simpler & faster is to just communicate. If we believe other

civilizations are common, then many will be way older & more advanced

than us, will detect us, and the scheme I proposed based on them

transmitting an AI, will work.

If, au contraire, we believe they are uncommon, then the question is pretty moot

since we'll never find them and they'll never find us,or anyhow it'll

take a very very

long time, far longer than our lives.

--

Warren D. Smith

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