199216Re: THEORY: Native languages of the Americas in popular music
- Oct 21, 2013Well, Garth has said, in few words, what I was saying at great length in my previous post.
From: Garth Wallace <gwalla@...>
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
> (Resending this as my reply went to Padraic only...)I think it has more to do with the fact that they are both now
> On 21 October 2013 02:38, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@...> wrote:
>> > Style, as I understand it, are those all features which make a piece of
>> music of
>> > a genre - so if you hear blue notes, improv, polyrhythms, syncopation
>> and swing
>> > you can identify "yup, that style is jazz",
>> Except when it's classical! All of those things are as perfectly at home
>> in the musical
>> world of the ancients as they are of the moderns. Clearly, something else
>> makes it
>> "jazz" or "classical"! :)
> Not necessarily. At home I can get two TV channels devoted to classical
> music. Both also feature jazz concerts prominently. So clearly for the
> people who run those classical music channels, jazz falls under the
> "classical music" moniker.
considered "sophisticated music for intellectuals".
> And indeed, I've heard more than once people arguing that jazz was theMusic-history-wise, that position's pretty hard to defend. Although
> proper evolution of classical music in our modern times,
there's been influence (in both directions), jazz just plain did not
originate in the classical tradition.
> rather than the weird and atonal "modern classical music" that isIf by "nowadays" you mean "a brief period in the middle of the last
> being made nowadays.
century". Even Boulez doesn't really mess with serialism anymore, and
he was one of its biggest purists in its heyday.
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