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183469Re: Further info on tense marking for nouns

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  • Adam Walker
    Oct 12, 2011
      On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Charles W Brickner <
      tepeyachill@...> wrote:

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      > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:11 PM
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      > Subject: Re: Further info on tense marking for nouns
      > I was thinking about this again since the Neilah service on Yom Kippur.
      > One
      > of the songs/prayers includes the repeated line "Adonai melech. Adonai
      > malach. Adonai yimloch." The translation ran "The L-ord is king. The
      > L-rd
      > was king. The L-rd will be king." Now I don't really speak Hebrew, but
      > ordinarily I would interpret "Adonai melech," as lord zero-copula king with
      > two nouns juxtaposed to show equation. But then how to interpret the
      > clearly parallel "Adonai malach" and "Adonai yimloch"? Is this a case of
      > tense marking on a noun? I guess it could be explained as the noun and the
      > third person present of the verb just co-incidentally having the same form
      > (in which case it would be better to translate it as "The L-ord
      > reigns/reigned/will reign"). Is this identity of the nominal form and the
      > 3p-sing PRES common in Hebrew? Or is this an odd case of tense marking on
      > a
      > noun in Hebrew?
      > If I remember my Hebrew correctly from the seminary at Catholic U. this is
      > what we have:
      > Adonai (is) king. No copula necessary.
      > Adonai reigned. The perfect of malak, to reign.
      > Adonai will reign. The imperfect of malak.
      > Charlie

      So is there any reason it couldn't be reinterpreted as kings/kang/will king
      (couldn't resist making it a strong verb) making it a tense marked noun? Or
      rather, and more on topic, is there any reason why it couldn't be evolved in
      just such a way for conlanging purposes. this seems like a very
      tempting/valid way for such tense marking on nouns to arise which might,
      eventually, lead to an entirely verbless language, or alternately an
      entirely nounless one depending on development and analysis.

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