180278Re: Missing archives?
- Jun 1 4:44 AMI have some archives from the 90s, but they are on diskette. If I can
find a machine...
On 6/1/11, R A Brown <ray@...> wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 09:53, And Rosta wrote:
>> R A Brown, On 01/06/2011 07:10:
>>> In particular, I would like to find the email in which
>>> Claudio Gnoli proposed his triangle.
>> I think, on the basis of very hazy memory, that it might
>> have been in his webpages on conlanging, not necessarily
>> on Conlang List.
> It's not on his current webpages and it's not in my copy of
> Liva which dates from September 1997. I still have a hazy
> memory of an email.
>>> BTW it is clear that the term _conlang_ was already
>>> established by 1991. Does anyone know when the term
>>> first made its appearance or who coined it?
>> I am certain that the term derives from (a -- perhaps
>> unreflective -- reanalysis of) the name of the list, so
>> either it would be the first use in the archives or, if
>> it seems that everybody is using the term from the
>> outset, then it must date from the brief period before
>> the listservization of the list. Given the name of the
>> list, it is only a short and natural step to apply the
>> list name to the concept 'conlang'.
> OK - that makes sense. So, basically, the adoption of the
> term 'conlang' by the list itself that has made the term
>> Are you planning to also track down the first use of
>> 'auxlang'? That must surely have been coined on Conlang
>> list too, unless in that instance too the listname
>> created the term.
> Good point - I hadn't, but I ought to if I want to get
> things as accurately as possible. I guess it was coined on
> the Conlang list before the "great sundering." Hopefully,
> the name will occur in those early archives.
> I guess I ought to try to track down the first use of
> _artlang_ and see if it was from "art language" or more
> specifically Tolkien's "art-language" (or even "artistic
> language", though I'm sure that is mistaken). But I suspect
> it dates from the "missing years." :(
> On 01/06/2011 09:54, taliesin the storyteller wrote:
> > On 2011-06-01 08:10, R A Brown wrote:
> >> Does anyone know if and where stuff from July 1994 till
> >> the 2nd week of September 1998 is archived?
> > I used to have sometime 1996 (when I joined) to december
> > 2002 but I didn't have backups... Would like to have'm
> > back.
> > Also, I think there was a time during the transition from
> > Diku to Brown that the list was basically offline.
> I don't recall an actual break in the list at the time - but
> I do recall some problem about the archives.
> Did nobody archive any conlang correspondence during those
> "missing years"?
> Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu.
> There's none too old to learn.
> [WELSH PROVERB]
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