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171498Re: Pronunciation of -chen in German

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  • Jan Strasser
    Apr 1, 2010
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      Daniel's theory sounds like a good explanation indeed. Another factor in
      this might be that <-chen> seems to be the only native morpheme (at the
      very least, the only *common* native morpheme) containing onset /C/.

      FWIW, I don't make the distinction. I consistently have [Cn=] in all the
      examples cited so far.

      - Jan

      > ------------------------------
      > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:48:41 +0200
      > From: Henrik Theiling<theiling@...>
      > Subject: Re: Pronunciation of -chen in German
      > Hi!
      > Daniel Prohaska writes:
      >> > I've got an alternative explanation. The diminutive suffix<-chen>
      >> > is very much associated with the standard language as every region
      >> > has it's own realisation of the standard suffixes<-chen> /Z@, S@,
      >> > kj@/ and<-lein> /-li, -@l, -le, -l@, 6l/ etc. Since<-chen> is
      >> > intrinsically standard, maybe this explains its "careful
      >> > pronunciation". Dan
      > Hmm, it doesn't feel marked*today*, but maybe the it once was more
      > marked/careful and then it silently stuck. Good theory!
      > I just noticed that the special case pronunciation is even found in
      > lexicalised words where the -chen ending has lost its diminutive
      > meaning like it_M├Ądchen_ ('girl'),_Rotkehlchen_ ('robin' (bird)),
      > _Kaninchen_ ('rabbit'). I know there's an element of 'little' in all
      > of those words, but it doesn't feel like a suffix anymore -- it's
      > fully lexicalised and inseperable. Still, they are all with -[@n] for
      > me instead of -[n=].
      > **Henrik
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