169931Re: Adverbial verbs(like stative verbs)?
- Feb 1, 2010Garth Wallace wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:27 PM, David Peterson <dedalvs@...> wrote:[snip]
>> Don't need adverbs?! Please! For a language, you don't needYes, it is, isn't it!
>> anything *but* adverbs!
>> (Cue "here comes the relevant link" music...)
>> I didn't write this one, but it's a lot of fun!
> Ha! Brilliant!
But to return to the matter of someone who wishes to eschew
adverbs (and much else besides) and have only nouns and
Philip Newton wrote:
> That works well for adverbs that are related toadjectives ("in an ADJ
> manner", for example). But "adverb", at least in somedescriptions of
> some languages, is also a catch-all class for all sortsof particles
> such as "tomorrow" and "there".Yep - practically all the discussion so far has related to
what we, back in the 1950s, called "adverbs of manner" and,
indeed, solely to descriptive adjectives; and as it has been
pointed out, there is no real problem in dispensing with the
category "adverb [of manner]." Many natlangs don't have a
discrete category for them.
'Tomorrow' may, of course, be used as a noun, so presumably
this can have some noun flexion. But 'there' ("adverb of
place") and 'then' ("adverb of time") seem to me a little
When I saw Philip's 'there', my immediate response was "[in]
that place." Then I thought "Hey, how's Vincent going to
express 'that'? It's adjectival, but a stative verb doesn't
Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu.
There's none too old to learn.
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