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  • Padraic Brown
    Dec 25, 2013
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      The main problem I can see with braille transcription, especially for the self-published, is the
      prohibitive cost. I don't think it would be right to try to compel such an author to offer a braille
      version out of their own pocket. Certainly, it is a trivial matter to send a PDF of a book's text to
      a transcription service (there are many, actually), and get a quote. If they offer a print-on-demand
      on-line bookstore service (the way Lulu or other self-publishing firms do for printed books), then
      I do think there would be no reason not to. The blind reader of such a book would, of course, have
      to put up with the very same transcriptions of the Shshi language that us sighted readers have to! :)

      But keep this in mind: Lorinda's novels run, what, 300 to 500 pages each, and the transcription
      service I looked into quotes something like a 3 to 1 ratio of braille to print pages. All that at a
      cost of (only) 25 cents per page). 400 pages times 3 books times a braille factor of 3 times 25
      cents equals a series cost of three hundred dollars. I *think* TQ has an e-reader version which
      might be much more economical for you, since you could let your device read the story to you.

      Even a short story book like mine would run somewhere in the neighborhood of forty to fifty
      dollars. But I will make this offer: For my part, if you're willing (and able) to pay the price quoted, I'd
      be more than happy to submit my book for braillification. Same caveat as above: I think the e-book
      version would probably be more economical.


      From: Lorinda J. Taylor <eljaytee2@...>
      To: conculture@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, 25 December 2013, 9:05
      Subject: Re: [conculture] Worldbuuilding Ideas was The Purge

      Well, no, I have no such plans, nor to make them into audio-books (which wouldn’t work very well because of the conlangs).  Maybe if my sales to sighted people picked up, I’d think about it!  I’m glad you’re interested, though.
      Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:43 PM
      Subject: RE: [conculture] Worldbuuilding Ideas was The Purge

      Hi, do you plan to transcribe your books into braille?
      There’s a company called Brailleworks that promised to transcribe mine, maybe you can contact them about your set.
      Pen name:
      Mellissa Green
      From: conculture@yahoogroups.com [mailto:conculture@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorinda J. Taylor
      Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:50 PM
      To: conculture@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [conculture] Worldbuuilding Ideas was The Purge
      Yes, you’ll remember from The Termite Queen how fascinated Mo’gri’ta’tu was with the Star-Beings’ weapon-not-growing-upon-the-body – a weapon that can kill from a distance.  Unfortunately, it’s all part of the New Time that is coming!  Read more about it in the Ki’shto’ba series!
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Padraic Brown
      Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:13 AM
      To: conculture@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [conculture] Worldbuuilding Ideas was The Purge
      Lorinda J. Taylor <eljaytee2@...> wrote:
      >Re bows and arrows among the Shshi (termite people):  The plains Shshi
      >(the people of Lo’ro’ra and of To’wak) never invented them because it requires
      >vision to shoot one with any accuracy and the Warriors have no eyes. 
      >However, other Shshi have devised the use of thrown spears, an act they can
      >perform with uncanny accuracy because of their strong positional and EM
      Yes. As I recall from the big fight scene, even though the Warriors are without
      sight, they can still conduct themselves quite ably on the field of battle!
      >And in a later volume of my series we have an Intercaste Warrior
      >(a genetic anomaly melding Alates and Warriors) who has eyes and she has
      >invented the bow and arrow.  At the point where we first meet her, she uses
      >untipped shafts with feathers for balance, but later she adopts the use of flint
      >points.  (This is the Atalanta character, by the way.)
      It will be interesting to see how her discovery / invention plays out within the
      broader context of Shshi culture. I get the sense that fighting is more of a personal
      thing, a thing done between two honorable warriors in a just cause as given by
      the rulers. To bring a thing of chaos, a thing that kills from unknown distances,
      into the culture could lead to some consternation!
      This was certainly the case among the Daine, even now very strongly disavow the
      use of deadly projectile weapons in battle. They much prefer a closer, more
      interpersonal kind of warfare.
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: Padraic Brown
      >Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:44 AM
      >To: conculture@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [conculture] Worldbuuilding Ideas was The Purge
      >Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews <goldyemoran@...> wrote:
      >> It’s kind of like Astronomy, where I can read all the Astronomy
      >books, but I’m not going to be able to really grasp it.
      >Indeed. However, while it might be next to impossible to understand
      astronomy, understanding a bow and arrow is a
      >little easier! You could easily take Peter's suggestion and go to a
      sporting goods shop to find out what these things feel
      >If the staff are particularly helpful, they might even (with guidance) let
      you feel what it's like to pull the bow and shoot
      >an arrow. You'll discover that it really isn't anything like what you're
      >>>>The bows are made form animal claws,
      >>>I have to say this doesn't sound anything at all like a
      >>Ok, I’ll rename it.
      >I don't think renaming it will solve your problem. As I see it, you don't
      know what a bow and arrow feels
      >like and your confusing what you do know about them with what you're
      imagining in your head. Further,
      >what you're imagining is quite different from the real object we have some
      familiarity with. I would
      >suggest, for the purpose of this single aspect of your conculturing, forget
      about bows and arrows entirely
      >and focus you imagination on the weapon at hand. Try to make some kind of
      mock-up (even out of a
      >stick or other things available in your house), try to move with it and
      interact with it, describe it well and
      >give it a native name.
      >>>What we're saying is that, for self defense, a bow and arrows are
      not effective at close range.
      >>>Even if they are all you have! As a last resort, you can drop the
      arrows and start swinging the
      >>>bow like a staff. That's pretty last ditch though.
      >>So the weapon can become a throwing weapon,
      >?? Now you're just wallowing! If you're going to stick with the bow and
      arrow motif, it won't work as
      >described and it won't "become a throwing weapon". If you throw a bow at
      someone, chances are
      >good you won't even hurt your opponent. And then you will have discarded
      something that could be
      >used in self defense.
      >> or the arrows are used from a distance.
      >Yes, from a distance is the key point here! A good archer can only loose a
      certain number of arrows
      >per minute -- 20 or 30. A good runner can bring his sword right up to the
      archer from fifty yards away
      >in what, 15 seconds or 20. No time to use that bow as intended! This is why
      we've been trying to help
      >you understand that the things you're trying to describe aren't fitting
      >>I guess their moral code is largely "do what you need to do in order to
      preserve yourself".
      >>They’d rob someone over food. Yemorans do that more than
      >See, now these are things far more interesting slogging through the nature
      of bows and arrows with you!
      >Me, I'd much rather see you focus more on cultural specifics and
      differences and how the characters in
      >your story deal with situations. Ultimately, no one really cares much what
      your weapon looks like --
      >especially if it's something you don't really understand.
      >But you can build a whole sub-plot around just this point of morality that
      you've described. Especially
      >if there is a conflict of moral systems in play.
      >>>>These hunters distract their prey with a distraction call. The
      call sounds like the rattle of a rattlesnake’s tail.
      >>>>It’s the rubbing of their hands.
      >>>Now that's an interesting snippet of life on Yemora!
      >>Yes, I forgot to add the Yemorans use their hands, and the Sarmians use
      their wings. Their call sounds like crickets.
      >Though I'd hazard the guess that Sarmian wings have finger-like
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