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Re: Side Effects of the "Conan" Murder

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  • cherryfarm123@yahoo.com
    really??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    Message 1 of 12 , Sep 3, 2001
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      really???
      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      heart breaking... how could they?!?!?!?!? (there's nothing more for
      me to say, since I agree with all the other messages people been
      putting up)

      a crying sad cherry


      the
      > Taiwanese station CTV (China TV Co.) pulled out its Conan from air
      on
      > Saturday without prior notice.
    • Shinichi Holmes
      ... Well, IMHO, I think that this is the real world. This is a very real situation in that you would alwyas get both sides of the coins. You could never be
      Message 2 of 12 , Sep 4, 2001
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        >From: pheebs_gu@...
        >To: conan@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: [conan] Re: Side Effects of the "Conan" Murder
        >Date: Mon, Sep 3, 2001, 3:43 PM

        > you know there are thousands of expanations to explain why conan
        > shouldn't be responsible for the horrible behavior of this kid.
        > and anyway conan didn't promote murder! He murdered out of his own
        > conscience and Conan simply became and excuse.
        > I think it is so unfair they should cancel it on fox for this reason!
        > Why can't they look at the good side of things? you know i bet conan
        > influenced many kids who become detectives and solve heaps of cases!
        > It makes kids so much smarter and things. this boy is only one in a
        > million, how many kids like conan? Heaps! and he's the only one to do
        > a stupid thing like that. We need to complain to FOX, do you see us
        > going out and murdering people?!!? no! IT'S THE BOYZ PROBLEM!

        Well, IMHO, I think that this is the real world. This is a very real
        situation in that you would alwyas get both sides of the coins. You could
        never be able to get only the good of one side and be able to abandon the
        bad of it. A sad thing, but it is often very true. It is the very Yin and
        Yang of our society. If there are detectives, then thieves must too, exist.

        Shinichi Holmes ")
        ICQ NO: 84619870
      • Laura Hoak-Kagey
        Hm, well, I was surprised to read this article and everything that goes with it. I do think that everything we do/see/experience in life helps make us who we
        Message 3 of 12 , Sep 5, 2001
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          Hm, well, I was surprised to read this article and
          everything that goes with it. I do think that
          everything we do/see/experience in life helps make us
          who we are, BUT, to copy something from a TV
          show/book/etc is usually a poor excuse.(brought on by
          little self control or self esteem. Acting before
          thinking...) People do things without thinking and
          then put the blame on something that is similar to
          what they did. Conan may have influenced the boy, but
          it was the boy's own actions that drove him to do it.
          I do think that Conan shouldn't be viewed by kids
          under the age of 10 (some of the shows are scary for
          me, and I'm 20!) which brings me to my next point.

          Conan on Fox. Well, I personally don't see this
          happening...I mean, if they had to edit violent scenes
          of SAILORMOON, then what would they do to Conan to
          make it presentable for TV? The American society has
          funny ways of trying to protect their youth. Kids can
          buy games like Mortal Kombat, or various other video
          games that have violence, yet they can't watch a
          "cartoon" that has violence in it. I think it is
          because this society has tried to hard to protect our
          youth that it is having reversed effects. The example
          I can give is that of Japan compared to the USA.
          Japan censors little on TV, and it has one of the
          lowest crime rates...the opposite is true in the USA.
          Violence it too heavily censored, I think, and their
          is so much crime that my once safe hometown is
          dangerous....

          So here's my final say. Japan is too different from
          the USA to have parts of its culture come to the USA.
          I wish it would be different, but having lived in both
          countries, I can see this being all too true. Anime
          still has a bad reputation in this country, and if
          Conan were on TV now, you know the murder incident in
          China would have put yet another bad example on the
          anime reputation. Enjoy what you enjoy, but remember
          trying to get everyone to accept and love what you
          enjoy/treasure is a hard task. But don't let those
          kind of people take away your interest/passion/hobby
          of what you do.

          Okay, I suppose I've written enough. Ja ne!
          ~Laura~

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        • pheebs_gu@yahoo.com
          yeah i really see what you mean. it s the same here in australia. they edit everything! even pokemon! and the ratting system is really strict too. e.g. if
          Message 4 of 12 , Sep 6, 2001
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            yeah i really see what you mean. it's the same here in australia.
            they edit everything! even pokemon! and the ratting system is really
            strict too. e.g. if anyone has seen neon genesis evangilion (i think
            i spelt it wrong), here its' rated M (for 15+) aftr been edited.
            Sometimes i do see why but other times it's ridiculess! you look at
            China and they have heaps of other weird stuff without rating.
            anyway the point is to be honest i really don't see how conan can be
            on FOX. i woul really really love it! But just honestly, if it
            happens, Conan is not going to be what we know, just imagine all the
            editing!

            --- In conan@y..., Laura Hoak-Kagey <sakura17yume@y...> wrote:
            > Hm, well, I was surprised to read this article and
            > everything that goes with it. I do think that
            > everything we do/see/experience in life helps make us
            > who we are, BUT, to copy something from a TV
            > show/book/etc is usually a poor excuse.(brought on by
            > little self control or self esteem. Acting before
            > thinking...) People do things without thinking and
            > then put the blame on something that is similar to
            > what they did. Conan may have influenced the boy, but
            > it was the boy's own actions that drove him to do it.
            > I do think that Conan shouldn't be viewed by kids
            > under the age of 10 (some of the shows are scary for
            > me, and I'm 20!) which brings me to my next point.
            >
            > Conan on Fox. Well, I personally don't see this
            > happening...I mean, if they had to edit violent scenes
            > of SAILORMOON, then what would they do to Conan to
            > make it presentable for TV? The American society has
            > funny ways of trying to protect their youth. Kids can
            > buy games like Mortal Kombat, or various other video
            > games that have violence, yet they can't watch a
            > "cartoon" that has violence in it. I think it is
            > because this society has tried to hard to protect our
            > youth that it is having reversed effects. The example
            > I can give is that of Japan compared to the USA.
            > Japan censors little on TV, and it has one of the
            > lowest crime rates...the opposite is true in the USA.
            > Violence it too heavily censored, I think, and their
            > is so much crime that my once safe hometown is
            > dangerous....
            >
            > So here's my final say. Japan is too different from
            > the USA to have parts of its culture come to the USA.
            > I wish it would be different, but having lived in both
            > countries, I can see this being all too true. Anime
            > still has a bad reputation in this country, and if
            > Conan were on TV now, you know the murder incident in
            > China would have put yet another bad example on the
            > anime reputation. Enjoy what you enjoy, but remember
            > trying to get everyone to accept and love what you
            > enjoy/treasure is a hard task. But don't let those
            > kind of people take away your interest/passion/hobby
            > of what you do.
            >
            > Okay, I suppose I've written enough. Ja ne!
            > ~Laura~
            >
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          • Angela Kuo
            If they were going to edit the whole thing and then show it on FOX, it would be SO different. So, maybe it is better for them to not air it cuz they d have a
            Message 5 of 12 , Sep 8, 2001
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              If they were going to edit the whole thing and then
              show it on FOX, it would be SO different. So, maybe
              it is better for them to not air it cuz they'd have a
              gazillion parts missing...I still don't get it though.
              They're airing "Moolah Beach" that's like a TEEN
              "Survivor." If they're letting 7 year olds watch
              that, why the heck are they cancelling Conan?!?!

              ~ANGELA~

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