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  • Samuel Curtis
    ... If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should be that Conan and Ai would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted. Would it be boring? -- Samuel
    Message 1 of 25 , Dec 3, 2000
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      "aChar!" wrote:

      > --- In conan@egroups.com, gmBeL <gembel@a...> wrote:
      > > >and i wonder , will be conan like kotaro [until 52 [if i'm not
      > mistaken]]
      > > > Nope, not finished yet ^_^ It looks like it won't be for a
      > while! ^_^
      > > Yeay! ^^ Volume 30 is coming out in December, so we're in luck! ^_^
      > >
      > > I hope when Aoyama finished this Conan, i wish it will be in a
      > happy
      > > ending for everyone .. especialy sinichi and ran ^_~
      > > hehhe
      > >
      >
      > I wouldn't recommend though... it'll be so cheesy when it's a totally
      > perfect happy ending.
      >
      > (I like sad endings, for example "Autumn In New York" has a really
      > catchy ending ^__^ realism rules!)
      >
      > Marsha

      If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should be that Conan and Ai
      would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted. Would it be boring?


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      (Who have read 8 volumes of BlackJack... the source of my Moral-socialism,
      apart from Extreme Ghostbusters.)

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    • aChar!
      ... mistaken]] ... while! ^_^ ... happy ... I wouldn t recommend though... it ll be so cheesy when it s a totally perfect happy ending. (I like sad endings,
      Message 2 of 25 , Dec 4, 2000
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        --- In conan@egroups.com, gmBeL <gembel@a...> wrote:
        > >and i wonder , will be conan like kotaro [until 52 [if i'm not
        mistaken]]
        > > Nope, not finished yet ^_^ It looks like it won't be for a
        while! ^_^
        > Yeay! ^^ Volume 30 is coming out in December, so we're in luck! ^_^
        >
        > I hope when Aoyama finished this Conan, i wish it will be in a
        happy
        > ending for everyone .. especialy sinichi and ran ^_~
        > hehhe
        >

        I wouldn't recommend though... it'll be so cheesy when it's a totally
        perfect happy ending.

        (I like sad endings, for example "Autumn In New York" has a really
        catchy ending ^__^ realism rules!)

        Marsha
      • aChar!
        ... totally ... and Ai ... boring? ... No, I m not thinking of it by that way. I m thinking of it in a more realistic term... admit it, D-Org has all the
        Message 3 of 25 , Dec 4, 2000
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          > > > I hope when Aoyama finished this Conan, i wish it will be in a
          > > happy
          > > > ending for everyone .. especialy sinichi and ran ^_~
          > > > hehhe
          > > >
          > >
          > > I wouldn't recommend though... it'll be so cheesy when it's a
          totally
          > > perfect happy ending.
          > >
          > > (I like sad endings, for example "Autumn In New York" has a really
          > > catchy ending ^__^ realism rules!)
          > >
          >
          > If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should be that Conan
          and Ai
          > would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted. Would it be
          boring?
          >

          No, I'm not thinking of it by that way. I'm thinking of it in a more
          realistic term... admit it, D-Org has all the access to information
          and databases, and it's a piece of cake for them to kill Conan and
          Ai. After all, if Shiho by herself is able to convince Dr Agasa
          easily and make him let her stay at his house after being shrunk,
          wouldn't it be as easy to get Conan and Ai? After all, there are only
          three of them and a HUGE organisation of the baddies. I'm not
          opposing the truth or anything truthful/good, but it's the fact that
          this world is not always going along with the theory that the good
          always wins over the bad. In the real world, I draw a conclusion that
          the baddies often win from the goodies (don't take Hollywood movies
          when making such decisions - most of those movies are totally
          irrelevant). Therefore, if Aoyama wouldn't want his manga to be
          forgotten easily, he must not make a cheesy ending. If he doesn't
          want a cheesy happy ending, there's only the sad ending left as an
          option.

          I hope this explanation may describe my point of view of 'what is
          real' and 'what is really fake'... well, I guess so.

          Marsha
        • kaito kid
          ... Marsha-san: you re right! ^^ but i always thought that the doctor guy is one of them and Ran will soon become one of the black org. member, coz i
          Message 4 of 25 , Dec 4, 2000
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            >From: "aChar! "
            >Reply-To: conan@egroups.com
            >To: conan@egroups.com
            >Subject: [conan] Re: happy ending
            >Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:02:38 -0000
            >
            >
            > > > > I hope when Aoyama finished this Conan, i wish it will be in a
            > > > happy
            > > > > ending for everyone .. especialy sinichi and ran ^_~
            > > > > hehhe
            > > > >
            > > >
            > > > I wouldn't recommend though... it'll be so cheesy when it's a
            >totally
            > > > perfect happy ending.
            > > >
            > > > (I like sad endings, for example "Autumn In New York" has a really
            > > > catchy ending ^__^ realism rules!)
            > > >
            > >
            > > If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should be that Conan
            >and Ai
            > > would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted. Would it be
            >boring?
            > >
            >
            >No, I'm not thinking of it by that way. I'm thinking of it in a more
            >realistic term... admit it, D-Org has all the access to information
            >and databases, and it's a piece of cake for them to kill Conan and
            >Ai. After all, if Shiho by herself is able to convince Dr Agasa
            >easily and make him let her stay at his house after being shrunk,
            >wouldn't it be as easy to get Conan and Ai? After all, there are only
            >three of them and a HUGE organisation of the baddies. I'm not
            >opposing the truth or anything truthful/good, but it's the fact that
            >this world is not always going along with the theory that the good
            >always wins over the bad. In the real world, I draw a conclusion that
            >the baddies often win from the goodies (don't take Hollywood movies
            >when making such decisions - most of those movies are totally
            >irrelevant). Therefore, if Aoyama wouldn't want his manga to be
            >forgotten easily, he must not make a cheesy ending. If he doesn't
            >want a cheesy happy ending, there's only the sad ending left as an
            >option.
            >
            >I hope this explanation may describe my point of view of 'what is
            >real' and 'what is really fake'... well, I guess so.
            >
            >Marsha

            >

            Marsha-san:

            you're right! ^^ but i always thought that the doctor guy is one of them and Ran will soon become one of the black org. member, coz i defineately thinks that Ran and the doctor makes a good couple... ^^ Ran and the doctor both have feelings about each other anyway... ^^ besides, i think that Shinichi secretly LOVED shiho without noticing it himself... ^^ and if the doctor is one of them, he'll simply killed Agasa Hagase and the two of them ^^ well... it's only my own opinion... ^^ anyway.. i agreed with you that conan will NOT have a good/ happy ending... ^^

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          • Eon Strife
            ... It s okay if it is good or bad ending, as long as Mr. Aoyama makes the direct sequel to Detective Conan with complex story. How about it happens 10 years
            Message 5 of 25 , Dec 4, 2000
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              > No, I'm not thinking of it by that way. I'm thinking
              > of it in a more
              > realistic term... admit it, D-Org has all the access
              > to information
              > and databases, and it's a piece of cake for them to
              > kill Conan and
              > Ai. After all, if Shiho by herself is able to
              > convince Dr Agasa
              > easily and make him let her stay at his house after
              > being shrunk,
              > wouldn't it be as easy to get Conan and Ai? After
              > all, there are only
              > three of them and a HUGE organisation of the
              > baddies. I'm not
              > opposing the truth or anything truthful/good, but
              > it's the fact that
              > this world is not always going along with the theory
              > that the good
              > always wins over the bad. In the real world, I draw
              > a conclusion that
              > the baddies often win from the goodies (don't take
              > Hollywood movies
              > when making such decisions - most of those movies
              > are totally
              > irrelevant). Therefore, if Aoyama wouldn't want his
              > manga to be
              > forgotten easily, he must not make a cheesy ending.
              > If he doesn't
              > want a cheesy happy ending, there's only the sad
              > ending left as an
              > option.
              >
              > I hope this explanation may describe my point of
              > view of 'what is
              > real' and 'what is really fake'... well, I guess so.
              >
              > Marsha
              >

              >
              It's okay if it is good or bad ending, as long as Mr.
              Aoyama makes the direct sequel to Detective Conan with
              complex story. How about it happens 10 years after
              current Detective Conan, Ayumi, Mitsushiko, and Genta
              are High School Detective ? Looks like Mitsushiko is
              talented to become a detective.
              Thanks.

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            • aChar!
              ... Hey that s a brilliant idea too! ^__^ By that time, Conan will look exactly like Shinichi (after all, he s Shinichi). Then, Ran will be about 27 and being
              Message 6 of 25 , Dec 5, 2000
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                > It's okay if it is good or bad ending, as long as Mr.
                > Aoyama makes the direct sequel to Detective Conan with
                > complex story. How about it happens 10 years after
                > current Detective Conan, Ayumi, Mitsushiko, and Genta
                > are High School Detective ? Looks like Mitsushiko is
                > talented to become a detective.

                Hey that's a brilliant idea too! ^__^ By that time, Conan will look
                exactly like Shinichi (after all, he's Shinichi). Then, Ran will be
                about 27 and being chased around by Kogorou and Eri to get married
                ASAP... it's really amusing to think about it that way.
                Yup, I agree with Eon, Mitsuhiko will make a good detective out of
                himself, although I doubt he'll be better than Shinichi/Conan (he
                hasn't got that super-deducted habit like Shinichi). Anyway, in his
                early years (seven, I guess?) he can already solve a problem with a
                little bit of help from his friends. He'll make a good detective, in
                my opinion he'll be better than Heiji though ^__^ It's a pity Ayumi
                doesn't kick asses like Ran... but a difference between character is
                important anyway. I wouldn't like a stereotype of good detectives
                having ass-kickers girlfriends... ^__^

                Marsha
              • gmBeL °
                ... married ... and Kogoro and Eri should live together again ? heheh ^_^ i cannot imagine how could they decided to married before
                Message 7 of 25 , Dec 5, 2000
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                  --- In conan@egroups.com, "aChar! " <bbeq@h...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > about 27 and being chased around by Kogorou and Eri to get
                  married
                  > ASAP...

                  and Kogoro and Eri should live together again ? heheh ^_^
                  i cannot imagine how could they decided to married before
                • Cherie Ponsuwanna
                  ... No, it wouldn t. How about more realism? Ending with someone s death, maybe Ai or even Conan himself, while trying to get rid of the org. Then s(he) will
                  Message 8 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                    > If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should
                    > be that Conan and Ai
                    > would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted.
                    > Would it be boring?

                    No, it wouldn't.
                    How about more realism? Ending with someone's death,
                    maybe Ai or even Conan himself, while trying to get
                    rid of the org. Then s(he) will be remembered as a
                    hero.

                    Cherie
                    getting weird days by days...i know that >.<

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                  • Cherie Ponsuwanna
                    ... What about Mr. and Mrs. Kudo? They know the whole story. Won t they do anything but let their son die? If I m not wrong, I think Mr. Kudo said once he
                    Message 9 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                      >After
                      > all, there are only
                      > three of them and a HUGE organisation of the
                      > baddies.
                      What about Mr. and Mrs. Kudo? They know the whole
                      story. Won't they do anything but let their son die?
                      If I'm not wrong, I think Mr. Kudo said once he knows
                      some agents who might help, according to manga #5.

                      >Therefore, if Aoyama wouldn't want his
                      > manga to be
                      > forgotten easily, he must not make a cheesy ending.
                      > If he doesn't
                      > want a cheesy happy ending, there's only the sad
                      > ending left as an
                      > option.
                      Yeah. Happy ending would be easily forgotten.

                      Cherie

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                    • Cherie Ponsuwanna
                      ... Hmm.. I never think of grow-up version of them. Nice idea anyway. I wonder if they will look back at this time and laugh at everything they had done.
                      Message 10 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                        >How about it happens 10 years after
                        > current Detective Conan, Ayumi, Mitsushiko, and
                        > Genta
                        > are High School Detective ? Looks like Mitsushiko
                        > is
                        > talented to become a detective.

                        Hmm.. I never think of grow-up version of them. Nice
                        idea anyway. I wonder if they will look back at this
                        time and laugh at everything they had done.
                        Personally, I don't think Genta or Ayumi will become
                        real detective. Mitsuhiko would, but I think he much
                        fits to scientist. First time we see him appeared
                        (manga #2), he's reading a science textbook, right?
                        He must really love it.

                        Cherie

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                      • kaito kid
                        ... i don t think Aoyama-sensei will be that horrible to kill conan or ai at the end, looking at the stuff happened in vol.1 ~ 27, i think that shinichi and
                        Message 11 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                          >From: Cherie Ponsuwanna
                          >Reply-To: conan@egroups.com
                          >To: conan@egroups.com
                          >Subject: Re: [conan] Re: happy ending
                          >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 04:06:33 -0800 (PST)
                          >
                          > > If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should
                          > > be that Conan and Ai
                          > > would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted.
                          > > Would it be boring?
                          >
                          >No, it wouldn't.
                          >How about more realism? Ending with someone's death,
                          >maybe Ai or even Conan himself, while trying to get
                          >rid of the org. Then s(he) will be remembered as a
                          >hero.
                          >
                          >Cherie
                          >getting weird days by days...i know that >.<
                          >

                          i don't think Aoyama-sensei will be that horrible to kill conan or ai at the end, looking at the stuff happened in vol.1 ~ 27, i think that shinichi and shiho, at the end, will properly turned back into their real size!! ^^ (hopefully) but i've got a funny feeling about Ran and the dcotor... ^^ they might properly falls in love... ^^ and i'm quite sure that shinichi will soon find out/ realize himself that the one he really loved is shiiho not Ran, coz if you compare all the thiings shinichi did to Ran and Shiiho, you'll probably know that all the stuff Shinichi did to Ran is a... kinda like...a pay back to Ran for waiting for him for no reason, and Ran will very soon find out that the feelings she have for Shinichi is only friendship and not love...

                          Kudo Shiniki

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                        • aChar!
                          ... That s gonna be cool! I don t like people killing each other, but that kind of ending fits the whole Detective Conan s theme. I hate all type of
                          Message 12 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                            > > If realism shall rule, than the Conan ending should
                            > > be that Conan and Ai
                            > > would not change back, even the D-Org. got busted.
                            > > Would it be boring?
                            >
                            > No, it wouldn't.
                            > How about more realism? Ending with someone's death,
                            > maybe Ai or even Conan himself, while trying to get
                            > rid of the org. Then s(he) will be remembered as a
                            > hero.

                            That's gonna be cool! I don't like people killing each other, but
                            that kind of ending fits the whole Detective Conan's theme. I hate
                            all type of Hollywood's Golden Rules of ending. One of them typically
                            goes like "get the girl and save the world"...

                            > getting weird days by days...i know that >.<

                            Who cares. I'm getting weirder too. I was planning to get my dad a
                            manicure set as his Christmas present, but I ended up buying him an
                            expensive fountain pen and got his name engraved there. What a weird
                            thing... (I'm a money-saving kind of girl)

                            Marsha
                          • aChar!
                            ... Of course they know, but I doubt they would do anything further than worrying of Shinichi s wellbeing. In #6 Shinichi askes his parents not to get their
                            Message 13 of 25 , Dec 6, 2000
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                              > >After
                              > > all, there are only
                              > > three of them and a HUGE organisation of the
                              > > baddies.
                              > What about Mr. and Mrs. Kudo? They know the whole
                              > story. Won't they do anything but let their son die?
                              > If I'm not wrong, I think Mr. Kudo said once he knows
                              > some agents who might help, according to manga #5.

                              Of course they know, but I doubt they would do anything further than
                              worrying of Shinichi's wellbeing. In #6 Shinichi askes his parents
                              not to get their hands into any kind of his matters (and he blushes
                              when he remembers Ran ^__^ funny little boy). Therefore... I guess
                              they wouldn't be clueless, but nevertheless they can't do anything
                              about it. [Japanese people have a very high ego and respect of one
                              another for sure]

                              Marsha
                            • Eon Strife
                              How about, in the end of current Detective Conan : Shiho is killed. Conan has final confrontation with Gin and Vodka. Gin and Vodka defeated. Conan changes
                              Message 14 of 25 , Dec 7, 2000
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                                How about, in the end of current Detective Conan :
                                Shiho is killed. Conan has final confrontation with
                                Gin and Vodka. Gin and Vodka defeated. Conan changes
                                back to Shinichi (And he doesn't tell Ayumi and co.
                                about this). MIB organization is disbanded.

                                Then the 2nd chapter:

                                Though the MIB organization is disbanded, but few
                                survived (Probably Gin and Vodka also). They revenge,
                                and killed Shinichi and family. Ayumi and friends now
                                becomes High School Detective Team. Mitsushiko is the
                                smartest, Ayumi as support, and Genta as body guard
                                (Genta will take cares of criminal who wants to escape
                                or attack Mitsushiko). By some reasons, the High
                                School Detective is tied to the new-MIB. Somehow, both
                                Genta and Mitsushiko falls in love with Ayumi. After
                                taking care of the MIB, the love confrontation reaches
                                climax. Probably Genta wants to eliminate Mitsuhiko or
                                vice versa, so he (Genta or Mitushiko)can get Ayumi.
                                After the hard struggle, only one male left (Genta or
                                Mitushiko), he thinks that he wins. But....Ayumi says
                                that she will wait for Conan...no matter what time or
                                what world...
                                Hehe..This 2nd chapter will always be remembered (The
                                story is too generic, isn't it ?}, because has sad
                                opening and ending...
                                Oh, and what does stereotype mean ?
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                              • aChar!
                                ... Yeah... it s cool Eon, but somehow it turns more into a romance-based kind of series rather than what the series is known as ^__^ good try of fanfic
                                Message 15 of 25 , Dec 8, 2000
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                                  > Hehe..This 2nd chapter will always be remembered (The
                                  > story is too generic, isn't it ?}, because has sad
                                  > opening and ending...

                                  Yeah... it's cool Eon, but somehow it turns more into a romance-based
                                  kind of series rather than what the series is known as ^__^ good try
                                  of fanfic though. Anyway, you mentioned 'Shinichi and family are
                                  killed' in the 2nd chapter, after Conan regains his adult body back.
                                  Do you include Ran and their kids [in case they've married] into
                                  the 'family'?

                                  > Oh, and what does stereotype mean ?

                                  It means typical.

                                  Marsha
                                • Eon Strife
                                  ... Hmm...probably, 10 years is a long time, probably they are married. Their family, maybe including Kogoro, Eri, Yusaku, Yukiko. It s sad to see 7 lovely
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                                    > Yeah... it's cool Eon, but somehow it turns more
                                    > into a romance-based
                                    > kind of series rather than what the series is known
                                    > as ^__^ good try
                                    > of fanfic though. Anyway, you mentioned 'Shinichi
                                    > and family are
                                    > killed' in the 2nd chapter, after Conan regains his
                                    > adult body back.
                                    > Do you include Ran and their kids [in case they've
                                    > married] into
                                    > the 'family'?

                                    Hmm...probably, 10 years is a long time, probably they
                                    are married. Their family, maybe including Kogoro,
                                    Eri, Yusaku, Yukiko. It's sad to see 7 lovely
                                    characters die, and their corpse put in a line,
                                    covered by white cloth, isn't it ? Probably Shinichi
                                    survives, in the end, he fights with Gin to dead.

                                    > > Oh, and what does stereotype mean ?
                                    >
                                    > It means typical.
                                    >

                                    Thanks for the word's meaning.
                                    >


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                                  • Cherie Ponsuwanna
                                    ... ^_^ It is true that the second movies are always not better than the first one. After all, is any fanfic writer interested in this plot? Cherie
                                    Message 17 of 25 , Dec 9, 2000
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                                      > Then the 2nd chapter:
                                      >
                                      > Though the MIB organization is disbanded, but few
                                      > survived (Probably Gin and Vodka also). They
                                      > revenge,
                                      > and killed Shinichi and family. Ayumi and friends
                                      > now
                                      > becomes High School Detective Team. Mitsushiko is
                                      > the
                                      > smartest, Ayumi as support, and Genta as body guard
                                      > (Genta will take cares of criminal who wants to
                                      > escape
                                      > or attack Mitsushiko). By some reasons, the High
                                      > School Detective is tied to the new-MIB. Somehow,
                                      > both
                                      > Genta and Mitsushiko falls in love with Ayumi. After
                                      > taking care of the MIB, the love confrontation
                                      > reaches
                                      > climax. Probably Genta wants to eliminate Mitsuhiko
                                      > or
                                      > vice versa, so he (Genta or Mitushiko)can get Ayumi.
                                      > After the hard struggle, only one male left (Genta
                                      > or
                                      > Mitushiko), he thinks that he wins. But....Ayumi
                                      > says
                                      > that she will wait for Conan...no matter what time
                                      > or
                                      > what world...
                                      ^_^ It is true that the second movies are always not
                                      better than the first one. After all, is any fanfic
                                      writer interested in this plot?

                                      Cherie

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                                    • Eon Strife
                                      ... Pssstt...actually, I myself don t like this plot although made by me. I m also the one who likes happy ending. No one will remember Detective Conan next
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                                        > ^_^ It is true that the second movies are always not
                                        > better than the first one. After all, is any fanfic
                                        > writer interested in this plot?

                                        Pssstt...actually, I myself don't like this plot
                                        although made by me. I'm also the one who likes happy
                                        ending.

                                        No one will remember Detective Conan next some years
                                        because it has happy ending just like other ? Well,
                                        the concept "A High School Student who is Detective is
                                        shrunk into a child / regressed to child and have to
                                        stay in his girlfriend's house without telling the
                                        truth and always let his girlfriend's father gets the
                                        credit" can stay in many's memories/hearts for a long
                                        time, I think.
                                        Thanks.

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                                      • Kumatenshi
                                        At 04:59 AM 12/9/00 -0800, you wrote: Hi all, About the ending thing, I wonder what about like this: After a dramatic case when Conan unveils the murderer, the
                                        Message 19 of 25 , Dec 9, 2000
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                                          At 04:59 AM 12/9/00 -0800, you wrote:

                                          Hi all,

                                          About the ending thing, I wonder what about like this:

                                          After a dramatic case when Conan unveils the murderer, the scene shift to many decades of years later.
                                          A young man (who looks awfully like Shinchi) walks into an old bookshop with his girlfriend.  He is chatting excitingly about another crime he has assisted the police to solve and all the techniques about detection and stuffs.  His girlfriend is not interested in the bookshop and so she goes the shop next door for donuts.  He remains and browses for the first edition of a book by Yusuke Kudo.   (Kumatenshi: Is Shiji's father Yusuke? I my spell wrong but you get it I hope) Sitting behind the counter of the bookshop is a very old man   The boy approaches the man to ask if they have a copy of a certain book.  The man says he has almost any mystery novel that he can find and points him to the shelf on the East.  As the young man approaches, he finds a very old and thick diary or something like that.  He opens the book and it's a memoir of Shinchi Kudo, which included his thoughts on detection and the techniques he used, the major cases he participated, his experiences when he was turned to a kid, his love for Ran and his friends both when he was Shinji and Conan.  He quickly browsed through the book, which began with Shinji's first case on the plane and ended with that dramatic case.  After that, there were several pages of blank and in the end, there was this quote:

                                          "If there is any mystery in the world that cannot be solved, it is the mystery of my life.  If you are reading this page, it means I think you have the gift and talent to carry on my dream.  Please let the spirit of logic and deduction pass on.  I have faith in you."

                                          Shinji Kudo

                                          The young man turned and the old man who was at the counter was gone.  There was another young man at the counter.

                                          "I would like to purchase this book and I wonder if I could speak to the shop owner."

                                          "Shop owner? He's in America right now."

                                          "America? What about the old man who was at the counter just now?"

                                          "An old man? How come? I'm the only one who's running the store today.  I just went to fetch some books from upstairs.  Didn't you see a sign at the desk just now?"

                                          The young man was shocked and lost for a moment, then he asked: "You've a wonderful collection of books, where did you get them?"

                                          "Oh, these books, I don't know where the owner got them but I've heard it's from a famous mystery writer at the end of the last century, or was it the beginning of this century?  A  Mr. Yusuke Kudo I think".
                                          "I see, thank you".

                                          "Hm...I'm sorry sir but this book is not in our catalogue".

                                          "Not in the catalogue? But can I purchase it?"

                                          "Well, I don't think this book is from our store at all.  I don't see any stamp of our shop on the book.  Usually, books in our stores have our stamp on it."

                                          "So, what should I do?"

                                          "I guess you can keep the book sir".

                                          The young man stared at the diary for a few moments, smiled, and walked into the streets where his girlfriend was waiting impatiently for him and gradually the two disappeared into the crowded streets of the mid-21st century.

                                          ~ End ~

                                          How about this kind of ending? I like it when there is simply no conclusion and the author leaves it to the readers to think what happens to Shinji and Conan. However, whatever that happens, the most important thing is that the skills, passion for logic and detection stay on!

                                          Kumatenshi ^v^
                                        • aChar!
                                          Kumatenshi, that is a cool ending. A really cool type of ending I ve never thought about ^__^ Moreover, it still stays within its detective and deduction
                                          Message 20 of 25 , Dec 9, 2000
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                                            Kumatenshi, that is a cool ending. A really cool type of ending I've
                                            never thought about ^__^ Moreover, it still 'stays' within its
                                            detective and deduction theme. Hey, you can actually start writing a
                                            fanfiction out of that idea too!

                                            Marsha
                                          • gmBeL
                                            ... How about this. ... there s no Ending Story. in the last manga, It wont have the ending [e.g horor movie] So Conan Will be in our memories for
                                            Message 21 of 25 , Dec 10, 2000
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                                              At 14:50 09/12/00 +0000, you wrote:

                                              Kumatenshi, that is a cool ending. A really cool type of ending I've
                                              ---8<---

                                              How about this. ...
                                              there's no Ending Story.
                                              in the last manga,  It wont have the ending  [e.g horor movie]
                                              So Conan Will be in our memories for long-long-long time [e.g Curt Cobain]

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                                            • gmBeL
                                              ... they allready did, rememer about Ayumi hide in the trunk of 2 men car and then Conan, etc Suspected that ayumi has been kidnapped ... ... --8
                                              Message 22 of 25 , Dec 10, 2000
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                                                At 05:35 07/12/00 -0800, you wrote:

                                                ----8<----
                                                . Somehow, both
                                                Genta and Mitsushiko falls in love with Ayumi.

                                                they allready did, rememer about Ayumi hide in the trunk of 2 men car and then Conan, etc Suspected that ayumi has been kidnapped ...

                                                After
                                                taking care of the MIB, the love confrontation reaches
                                                climax. Probably Genta wants to eliminate Mitsuhiko or
                                                --8<---



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                                              • Jessica R.
                                                ... The agents he was talking about were Interpol agents . . . if any government organization has information on the dark syndicate, it would probably be these
                                                Message 23 of 25 , Dec 30, 2000
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                                                  > From: "aChar! " <bbeq@...>
                                                  > > Cherie wrote:
                                                  > > What about Mr. and Mrs. Kudo? They know the whole
                                                  > > story. Won't they do anything but let their son die?
                                                  > > If I'm not wrong, I think Mr. Kudo said once he knows
                                                  > > some agents who might help, according to manga #5.
                                                  >
                                                  > Of course they know, but I doubt they would do anything further than
                                                  > worrying of Shinichi's wellbeing. In #6 Shinichi askes his parents
                                                  > not to get their hands into any kind of his matters (and he blushes
                                                  > when he remembers Ran ^__^ funny little boy). Therefore... I guess
                                                  > they wouldn't be clueless, but nevertheless they can't do anything
                                                  > about it. [Japanese people have a very high ego and respect of one
                                                  > another for sure]

                                                  The agents he was talking about were Interpol agents . . .
                                                  if any government organization has information on the
                                                  dark syndicate, it would probably be these guys.

                                                  Shin'ichi's dad said that they would let him do as
                                                  he pleases for the time being, but they would take
                                                  him away with them if it got dangerous. I wonder if
                                                  they're aware of what happened to Conan in vols 25-26 . . .
                                                  That was certainly a dangerous situation, but we didn't
                                                  hear from them at all. I'm sure that Agasa would have
                                                  informed them, unless . . . ^^;;; (I'm not sure if I should
                                                  extrapolate further...)

                                                  > From: "Eon Strife" <eon_strife@...>
                                                  > Hmm...probably, 10 years is a long time, probably they
                                                  > are married. Their family, maybe including Kogoro,
                                                  > Eri, Yusaku, Yukiko. It's sad to see 7 lovely
                                                  > characters die, and their corpse put in a line,
                                                  > covered by white cloth, isn't it ? Probably Shinichi
                                                  > survives, in the end, he fights with Gin to dead.

                                                  Although that would be an interesting ending, I'm
                                                  not sure what the point would be. It would be such
                                                  a change from the rest of the series. I think this
                                                  series is basically a coming-of-age story, and
                                                  personally, I'd like to see an ending reflecting that . . .
                                                  giving it closure, through both ending the matter with
                                                  the dark syndicate, and by giving some closure to
                                                  the buildup with the character relationships and
                                                  development.

                                                  > Pssstt...actually, I myself don't like this plot
                                                  > although made by me. I'm also the one who likes happy
                                                  > ending.

                                                  As do I. ^_^ I don't want Conan and Ran to die,
                                                  even though it could be a good ending . . . After
                                                  all of the troubles they've gone through, I want to
                                                  see them find some happiness somehow.

                                                  > No one will remember Detective Conan next some years
                                                  > because it has happy ending just like other ? Well,
                                                  > the concept "A High School Student who is Detective is
                                                  > shrunk into a child / regressed to child and have to
                                                  > stay in his girlfriend's house without telling the
                                                  > truth and always let his girlfriend's father gets the
                                                  > credit" can stay in many's memories/hearts for a long
                                                  > time, I think.

                                                  I agree. I think that the storyline, characters,
                                                  and current popularity will make Conan memorable
                                                  enough to be remembered to some time in the
                                                  future, even if the ending isn't spectacular or
                                                  unexpected.

                                                  I hope that there is a real ending . . . not a rushed
                                                  half-ending, caused by Aoyama being burned out. :(

                                                  > From: Kumatenshi
                                                  > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 5:53 AM
                                                  <snip story>
                                                  > How about this kind of ending? I like it when there is
                                                  > simply no conclusion and the author leaves it to the
                                                  > readers to think what happens to Shinji and Conan.
                                                  > However, whatever that happens, the most important
                                                  > thing is that the skills, passion for logic and detection
                                                  > stay on!

                                                  I love this idea for an ending! ^_^ If it's open-ended
                                                  like this, then I think it could be really good.

                                                  (And I just find the idea of Shin'ichi writing a memoir
                                                  when he's old a cool idea. ^^;)

                                                  --jessica
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