RE: [cp] Re: better groupware
Thanks for being supportive.
"Do you know of any group that is just about the technical side of CoPs? (I
am asking for a person I know that could be interested in this nuance
No, I haven't found any group that is just about the technical side of CoPs.
I've found groups that deal with particular aspects of the technology eg
I've been lurking in the Admin Zone Forum (see
http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/index.php where bulletin board
administrators discuss both technical and "social" (moderation etc) issues.
The BB describes itself thus: "Our goal is to become the leading resource
for every Bulletin Board Administrator seeking the information and advice
needed to plan, launch, and manage their online Communities". There are
threads there where people are discussing the best tools for integrating
their bulletin boards into portals or content management systems.
I also put a post up on the Technology Special Interest Group on
Knowledgeboard and I guess it might be possible to get the people that run
Knowledgeboard to create another SIG for this purpose.
I am interested in finding ways of collaborating with people on this so I
would certainly be keen to make contact with the person you mention. (It
would of course be trivial to set up a YahooGroup for the purpose, but
personally I wanted to use the exercise to make myself familiar with other
types of tool.)
"What are *you* here for, David, aside from your search?"
I was a bit reluctant to deal with this as it seems to require me to justify
my existence. But to be fair as my posts seem to have created some
nervousness in the group I maybe should take steps to allay that even if
most members will be even less interesed in me personally than in my search
for appropriate technology.
The simple answer is I feel I am here "by right" as a long-term nurturer of
communities of practice. Had I known com-prac existed I would have joined
when I set up my first e-mail groups about six years ago. There was a great
glow of recognition when I discovered com-prac. I particularly enjoyed
reading the interview with John Smith about his experiences with com-prac
itself (see the com-prac library). My first group empty_homes_network_uk
existed only as an e-mail group maintained by me. Subsequently this was
subsumed into NAEPP, which has a constitution, officers etc. But as well as
being Treasurer and Membership Secretary of NAEPP, I remain the only person
who seems to have any interest in maintaining the e-group and that sometimes
feels quite a lonely responsibility.
So there you have the standard stuff I would look to take FROM com-prac -
solidarity, support. My initial post to com-prac was a typical newbie post
of someone looking to more experienced members for information.
As for giving TO com-prac, I would hope to feed back into the group useful
links and documents - not just about technology but anything else which I
come across - and contribute to any e-mail exchange where I feel my
experience or thoughts are relevant. I think I've already indicated a
willingness to give something back by putting things like the NAEPP
constitution in a publicly accessible place.
Currently I'm trying to reflect on what I've learned in my search process,
how information is stored and made available on the www and how you can
create a collaborative process that "deepens" the knowledge available. By
"deepen" I mean collect, sift, structure the knowledge not just once but as
an on-going resource. That's a bit about KM, a bit about CMS and a bit
about collaborative working (CoP?). So expect a post of a more general
nature in the not-too-distant future.
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What are *you* here for, David, aside from your search?
And btw I completely agree with you, human interactions shape software needs
and the software shapes the interaction.
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I've spent some years doing 'club rescue', helping sick Toastmasters
clubs (www.toastmasters.org). They use electronic and live connection
systems. The patterns of usage vary by individual club - by
the personalities and dominant groups involved. Most or all could
benefit from richer electronic connections. Even people who don't
use a computer much themselves benefit from the better organization
around them -the richer community connections. I've seen a lot of lives
enriched by simply introducing yahoo egroups and geocities web sites.
They could benefit from richer club-to-club connections and
larger group connections growing community.
> ... David asked if anyone else share the perception thatHigh tech doesn't seem to make that much difference. I've worked
> there are far more of these potential groups (whether CoPs or otherwise)
> than the groups that actually exist - and that the penetration of
> groupware has actually been very shallow.
with groups who meet inside software development firms, big banks,
chipmakers, and the like. The tech is just a trickster, it can be
useful and the knife can turn in the hand.
Because I've dealt with the walking wounded and new clubs I like
simplicity, it's easier to instil and to fix.
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