8104RE: [cp] Forums & KM: What CoP's Should Do to Manage Discussion-Produced Knowledge
- Jan 29, 2009Hi Eric,
I'm afraid it's more limited, even if it follows the same idea of unifying the management of the conversation. The only advance in this direction that this software makes is using the thread (from which we extract the messages to be turned into the article) as the article's comments section.
It's just a harvesting tool, really. Makes it easier to gather and shape a formal conclusions document.
As for the VDC model, I've been looking into some possibilities that are closer than one'd think. The implementation is still very complex in such a fragmented environment :-) but there's a lot of advance in the right direction.
De: email@example.com [firstname.lastname@example.org] En nombre de Eric Hoffer [erichoffer@...]
Enviado el: jueves, 29 de enero de 2009 3:17
Asunto: RE: [cp] Forums & KM: What CoP's Should Do to Manage Discussion-Produced Knowledge
Miguel - That sounds like a step toward the Virtual Dynamic Community - or at least the blogger/commenter tool you and I had swapped emails about some time back. Sounds great. So does it let you post to multiple destinations at once, so you can respond to all the places from which the discussion elements came - and/or to all the places it could be relevant?
Amy - This is not without work, but I've found that when a community maintains a wiki in conjunction with their forum (the operative word being "maintains"), it is ideal for cataloging ideas, discoveries, conclusions, resources - and can be much easier to find things than searching the forum logs/archives (when accessible). The trick, of course, is getting participation in maintaining the wiki as a resource, and requires a long-term
--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Cornejo Castro, Miguel <miguel.cornejo@...<mailto:miguel.cornejo%40tecnocom.es>> wrote:
From: Cornejo Castro, Miguel <miguel.cornejo@...<mailto:miguel.cornejo%40tecnocom.es>>
Subject: RE: [cp] Forums & KM: What CoP's Should Do to Manage Discussion-Produced Knowledge
To: "email@example.com<mailto:com-prac%40yahoogroups.com>" <firstname.lastname@example.org<mailto:com-prac%40yahoogroups.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 8:33 PM
getting people to document at the end of a discussion has always been an uphill struggle. It means collecting, filtering, polishing and publishing the results... and that can be very tedious and time consuming. Not to mention technically complicated.
Since I operate some forums and tend to "harvest" them for guides, articles, and other objects, I've been on the lookout for any solution to minimize the hassle. Not finding any, this last month I've finally implemented a custom-built piece of software that enables the (authorised) user to select the interesting messages within a thread, dump them to the editing environment with a single click, tweak to their heart's desire, and then publish with another click; the system automatically creates the cross-link from the article to the thread and viceversa (for additional comments). No authorisation or login issues, no copy-pasting, no different files. Trials went very well and now we're in real use. Which means some people are using it, so it's working.
Of course that's not the whole solution nor will solve the issue of archives. But it's a start.
PS - If you happen to use Invision forums and Joomla CMS, and happen to like the idea, let me know :-).
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De: com-prac@yahoogroup s.com [com-prac@yahoogroup s.com] En nombre de Amy [amypricetx@sbcgloba l.net]
Enviado el: lunes, 26 de enero de 2009 16:13
Para: com-prac@yahoogroup s.com
Asunto: [cp] Forums & KM: What CoP's Should Do to Manage Discussion-Produced Knowledge
The discussion about the closing of a forum has triggered me
thinking on the KM aspects. Just stopping a forum doesn't have to
stop a community - the same group of people could start up again
elsewhere (just move the tent to another location). However the
archives are indeed lost with the move.
This brings up an issue I've been grappling with recently: the
discussion group/KM conundrum. Having worked in this domain for many
years, I'm of the opinion that the majority of what is said in
discussion forums should be deleted periodically, and that it's up
to the forum community to capture the important info (know-how and
know-who) in another form for ready reference by all members.
But that doesn't seem to be the situation with the aforementioned
community, and it's certainly not evolved beyond discussion in the
groups I work with (in fact, members publish complete solutions out
to the forums with attachments) .
Email archiving policies (deletion after X number of years) may be
creating a 'burning platform' to cause companies to look more
closely at this issue.
So my questions are:
-- How do we make the leap from forums to preserving the good bits
of knowledge they produce?
-- Do we need better tools, practice/process or both, and if so,
-- What has worked for people on these boards?
Web 2.0 seemed to be getting us to a place where some of this would
be possible, but I'm afraid that proliferating forums will result in
bigger dumpsters. I'm ok for occasional dumpster diving but I don't
want to make a career out of it. And I don't believe that Search
will ever be good enough to solve this issue.
Inputs are most welcome. (I'll document the good stuff at the end of
Cheers, Amy P.
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