Re: CYOA - Re: wheel vs tiller helm
- Best feeling of speed is 20-100 ft 400-600 Kts, the ground blurs in your periphery.
undoubtedly km/h but still frighteningly fast if you're not used to
> it. a road that seems wide, and flat, and straight at 70mph gets
> twisty and hilly at 150.....above the 150ish mark fuel and tire
> consumption go up exponentially
> On 4/6/2013 2:50 PM, Jesse Doyle wrote:
>> */Especially if it's a Dodge Viper. Have a friend with one and he gave
>> me a ride. Topped out at 245. A certain spot on my body is still
>> [mailto:email@example.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan Misener
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 2:40 PM
>> *To:* firstname.lastname@example.org;
>> *Subject:* Re: CYOA - Re: wheel vs tiller helm
>> I think of the tiller vs wheel decision as being analagus to the
>> manual vs automatic transmission decision in a car. if you really want
>> the full sailing experience a tiller is a better choice. just like if
>> you really want the full driving experience in a car a manual
>> transmission is a better choice.
>> Having said that my boat has a wheel caus the wife likes it better.
>> The boat we race (t ten) has a tiller.
>> Just my 2 cents...
>> Dan and Patti
>> C34 MKII
>> *From: *gr8wi9 <boothjg@... <mailto:boothjg@...>>;
>> *To: *<email@example.com
>> *Subject: *CYOA - Re: wheel vs tiller helm
>> *Sent: *Fri, Apr 5, 2013 5:56:08 PM
>> The 8.7 is particularly nice since the post comes up through the
>> transom and flips up, leaving the cockpit completely clear. I've
>> thought of adding a fitting so I could put a removable cockpit table
>> in but I'm not so sure I'd like the fitting left when the table is
>> removed. Maybe there's a good flush one. I haven't really looked.
>> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org
>> <mailto:email@example.com>, "mitch_at_sea"
>> <kestrel-01@... <mailto:kestrel-01@...>> wrote:
>> > I figured a tiller would be better in my 8.7. The cockpit was never
>> designed to have a wheel - I can't move around the cockpit effectively
>> with the thing there. And since I'll probably be spending half my time
>> relaxing dockside, being able to swing a tiller out of the way would
>> be a huge plus.
Mix epoxy and graphite and pour it around the rudder shaft. It is easier if you wax the rudder shaft first then put it back (reinstall it). This will give you a very smooth "tight" fit and you will not have any looseness or play in the rudder. There are others on this site that will most likely chime in especially Cpt. Esterle. Dan
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:56:27 -0700
Subject: CYOA - RE: wheel vs tiller helm
Hi Dave;I still plan on converting back to a tiller, but I haven't had the time/money to do so. Life keeps on getting in the way. For my boat the conversion would be relatively simple. The previous owner had already moved the motor controls from the pedestal to a single lever mounted side of the cockpit. So all I need to do is pull out the pedestal, patch the holes in the cockpit floor, and hookup a tiller to the rudder stock. I could use the emergency tiller for this, provided that it would be safe and strong enough to use full time. Or the emergency tiller could be used as a short term solution, until I have the time to do something nicer.I really don't like having a wheel in my 8.7. The wheel takes up too much cockpit space and moving around the wheel is a pain. Personally, I also find it hard to steer with a wheel. I'm used to having the feel and handling of a tiller. I frequently loose sight of what position my rudder is in, so I often put the rudder too hard over, especially when I'm reversing out of my slip.One thought I did have was to replace the 8.7 rudder's stuffing box with a steel or aluminum sleeve and bearing assembly. Apparently this sort of thing requires a lot less maintenance and is totally leak proof. I'm told that I have to replace my rudder's bearings soon, so this might be the way for me to go. But like I said, I haven't had the time so I haven't put much research into the project.Mitch