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  • waazit2ya
    ...I don t think the focus should be on getting crime DOWN, but getting our level of safety and security UP... What? So that the first person walking
    Message 1 of 15 , Jan 9, 2007
      "...I don't think the focus should be on getting crime DOWN, but
      getting our level of safety and security UP..."

      What? So that the first person walking unawares down the street,
      gets smacked with a pipe (and dies)? This has to be ONE of the most
      ignorant things written, EVER. How very, very unintelligent.

      --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...>
      wrote:
      >
      >
      > I think you are suppose to have your rubby slippers on and click
      your
      > heals 3 times when you say that and your wish will come true.
      However,
      > as someone who considers myself on a spiritual journal, I support
      your
      > faith affirmation that crime will go down. I do we leave we are
      at the
      > point where with good leadership we can get there. But
      unfortunately,
      > the numbers are the numbers for 3D.
      >
      > BTW, I don't think the focus should be on getting crime DOWN, but
      > getting our level of safety and security UP in all aspects of our
      > community and personal lives. Post reports are on the list, I am
      sure
      > they will review the facts and write an article that beyond what
      they
      > recieved in press announcements.
      >
      > Now back to serious business.
      >
      > "Crime is down under the Graham/McCoy regime in 3D", click!
      > "Crime is down under the Graham/McCoy regime in 3D", click!
      > "Crime is down under the Graham/McCoy regime in 3D", click!
      >
      > "The crime stats for 3D are wrong, because the Devil is a liar"
      > "The crime stats for 3D are wrong, because the Devil is a liar"
      > "The crime stats for 3D are wrong, because the Devil is a liar"
      >
      > William
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > halyadoing wrote:
      >
      > >Crime is down, William. Spin all you want.
      > >You can bash Graham till the cows come home, but the stats speak
      for
      > >themselves
      > >And you is wrong.
      > >If the Post can't get it right
      > >Where is your retort?
      > >I don't see your byline on page 14
      > >Put your pen where you mouth is
      > >Where's the letter you sent correcting these mistakes?
      > >Stop trying to fool people
      > >Graham is the man
      > >The world is a safer place.
      > >When someone calls, he picks up the phone
      > >That ain't passing the buck. Passing the buck is blaming Graham
      for
      > >every damn thing like he's God or something.
      > >Grow up, my man.
      > >Your horse ain't so high anymore.
      > >You just becoming a bore.
      > >These are harsh words but you are becoming cruel
      > >And redundant
      > >Whipping a dead horse
      > >I dare you to call Graham and ask him to solve a single problem
      > >I bet he would
      > >If you could
      > >articulate what the problem was
      > >For once
      > >All I hear is blame blame blame blame
      > >Which is lame lame lame lame
      > >
      > >Thus spake Halyadoing. Profits are down but this prophet is up up
      up.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
    • William Jordan
      Yes, focusing narrowly on reducing crime gets us what we have now a superficial and highly reactionary system. With MPD, politicians and folk vested in the
      Message 2 of 15 , Jan 10, 2007

        Yes, focusing narrowly on reducing crime gets us what we have now a superficial and highly reactionary system.  With MPD, politicians and folk vested in the gentrification mythology running around taking bows for spinning statistical averages into statistically insignificant crime drops. Saying, "see our non-policy works".  The result  citizens being neither actually safer nor feeling any safer. And the concrete things that need to happen in neighborhoods to make them truely safer never getting fully implemented.    While catching criminals after crime occurs is imporant and critical, most of us want to see an infrastructure that makes crime  much less likely to occur in the first place.  However this requires a liberative prevention approach, efficient management of police resources, close interagency cooperation and trust amoung residents and between residents and agencies.

        3D/Ward 1 public safety approach is highly politicized and reactionary; therefore, cooperation and trust is more perfunctory than real.   Even the boundaries of the district were redrawn more so to fit the needs of political ambition than to ensure maximum safety for citizens.  This reactionary system, running around putting out fires, that we have is good politically because it is visible and fairly responsive with lots of action  scoring political points with key constituency groups.  The problem is that after the show is over little concrete is left as the last 3 years of stats for 3D reveal. Now for political reasons even with the stats staring  us in the face some are trying to convince us that what we are doing is really improving things and that we are safer.   How can we make changes if we don't acknowledge that we have a serious problem and what we are doing is not working well?  This political game of labeling a nusiance a crime, then painting over or shifting  the nusiance around is not good community policing nor effective.

        William







        waazit2ya wrote:
        "...I don't think the focus should be on getting crime DOWN, but
        getting our level of safety and security UP..."
        
        What?  So that the first person walking unawares down the street, 
        gets smacked with a pipe (and dies)?  This has to be ONE of the most 
        ignorant things written, EVER.  How very, very unintelligent.  
        
          

      • waazit2ya
        Who are the most of us you reference? You don t appear to have much of a collalition. Your comments seem more like a guise for some Kumbaya socialist
        Message 3 of 15 , Jan 10, 2007
          Who are the "most of us" you reference? You don't appear to have
          much of a collalition.

          Your comments seem more like a guise for some "Kumbaya" socialist
          manifesto while letting thugs terrorize neighborhoods -- because they
          can't be held to any form of "higher" standards.

          --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...>
          wrote:
          >
          >
          > Yes, focusing narrowly on reducing crime gets us what we have now a
          > superficial and highly reactionary system. With MPD, politicians
          and
          > folk vested in the gentrification mythology running around taking
          bows
          > for spinning statistical averages into statistically insignificant
          crime
          > drops. Saying, "see our non-policy works". The result citizens
          being
          > neither actually safer nor feeling any safer. And the concrete
          things
          > that need to happen in neighborhoods to make them truely safer
          never
          > getting fully implemented. While catching criminals after crime
          > occurs is imporant and critical, most of us want to see an
          > infrastructure that makes crime much less likely to occur in the
          first
          > place.
        • jhorvatsr
          Lord help us! I never thought I d see the day when William Jordan, the most gramatically challenged gadfly to ever sit in front of a computer keyboard, would
          Message 4 of 15 , Jan 10, 2007
            Lord help us! I never thought I'd see the day when William Jordan,
            the most gramatically challenged gadfly to ever sit in front of a
            computer keyboard, would stoop so low as to be AGAINST a reduction in
            crime. Neighbors, I think we can all take this as a sign to tune this
            guy out once and for all. He is nothing more than a joke. I wouldn't
            be suprised if he were laughing at us right now. He is so ridiculous
            that he can't be real and responding to his insanity only crowds up
            the e-mail traffic. I can now understand why so many police precincts
            react to citizen calls with such rude skepticism. A few calls from
            William and the officers would assume we're all a bunch of nuts who
            have no credibility. Also, for some reason, he's really got it out
            for Jim Graham and I wonder if any of it has to do with Graham's
            positions or track record. Perhaps there's something personal about
            Graham that he just can't stomach. He certainly hasn't come up with
            even a scintilla of criticism for Marion Barry. I wonder why? Either
            way, his intense hatred for Graham reveals an obvious prejudice that
            probably has nothing to do with Graham the councilman.

            When I was gullible enough to participate on this board some time ago
            I went round and round with William after he referred to the
            expansion of the Yellow Line as a "boondoggle." What kind of
            nuttiness is that? Expanding an overburdened, crowded subway system
            is wrong? But of course, reducing crime is also wrong, isn't it?

            I know I'm going against my own advice but PLEASE don't give this guy
            any more attention. Even though I laugh, like we all do, at some of
            his more witty opponents, I suggest we ignore this non-productive,
            negative force. He seems to crave any attention he can get. Let him
            practice his awkward, self-important condescension in a vacuum.
            Perhaps then, he'll get sucked up in the void of his own self-
            delusion. We can only hope. In the meantime, I'll await the arrival
            of USEFUL news and insight on this board.

            Happy New Year.

            John


            --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...>
            wrote:
            >
            >
            > Yes, focusing narrowly on reducing crime gets us what we have now a
            > superficial and highly reactionary system. With MPD, politicians
            and
            > folk vested in the gentrification mythology running around taking
            bows
            > for spinning statistical averages into statistically insignificant
            crime
            > drops. Saying, "see our non-policy works". The result citizens
            being
            > neither actually safer nor feeling any safer. And the concrete
            things
            > that need to happen in neighborhoods to make them truely safer
            never
            > getting fully implemented. While catching criminals after crime
            > occurs is imporant and critical, most of us want to see an
            > infrastructure that makes crime much less likely to occur in the
            first
            > place. However this requires a liberative prevention approach,
            > efficient management of police resources, close interagency
            cooperation
            > and trust amoung residents and between residents and agencies.
            >
            > 3D/Ward 1 public safety approach is highly politicized and
            reactionary;
            > therefore, cooperation and trust is more perfunctory than real.
            Even
            > the boundaries of the district were redrawn more so to fit the
            needs of
            > political ambition than to ensure maximum safety for citizens.
            This
            > reactionary system, running around putting out fires, that we have
            is
            > good politically because it is visible and fairly responsive with
            lots
            > of action scoring political points with key constituency groups.
            The
            > problem is that after the show is over little concrete is left as
            the
            > last 3 years of stats for 3D reveal. Now for political reasons even
            with
            > the stats staring us in the face some are trying to convince us
            that
            > what we are doing is really improving things and that we are
            safer.
            > How can we make changes if we don't acknowledge that we have a
            serious
            > problem and what we are doing is not working well? This political
            game
            > of labeling a nusiance a crime, then painting over or shifting the
            > nusiance around is not good community policing nor effective.
            >
            > William
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > waazit2ya wrote:
            >
            > >"...I don't think the focus should be on getting crime DOWN, but
            > >getting our level of safety and security UP..."
            > >
            > >What? So that the first person walking unawares down the street,
            > >gets smacked with a pipe (and dies)? This has to be ONE of the
            most
            > >ignorant things written, EVER. How very, very unintelligent.
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
          • William Jordan
            I am confident that most of us would rather not be victims of crime. Actually, the system we have is a Kumbaya socialist system that uses MPD and agencies to
            Message 5 of 15 , Jan 10, 2007

              I am confident that most of us would rather not be victims of crime.   Actually, the system we have is a "Kumbaya" socialist system that uses MPD and agencies to terrorize neighbors to enforce  personal political agendas.  You have hit the nail on the head in describing our current system.  

              William  

              waazit2ya wrote:
              Who are the "most of us" you reference?  You don't appear to have 
              much of a collalition.
              
              Your comments seem more like a guise for some "Kumbaya" socialist 
              manifesto while letting thugs terrorize neighborhoods -- because they 
              can't be held to any form of "higher" standards.
              
              --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...> 
              wrote:
                
              Yes, focusing narrowly on reducing crime gets us what we have now a 
              superficial and highly reactionary system.  With MPD, politicians 
                  
              and 
                
              folk vested in the gentrification mythology running around taking 
                  
              bows 
                
              for spinning statistical averages into statistically insignificant 
                  
              crime 
                
              drops. Saying, "see our non-policy works".  The result  citizens 
                  
              being 
                
              neither actually safer nor feeling any safer. And the concrete 
                  
              things 
                
              that need to happen in neighborhoods to make them truely safer 
                  
              never 
                
              getting fully implemented.    While catching criminals after crime 
              occurs is imporant and critical, most of us want to see an 
              infrastructure that makes crime  much less likely to occur in the 
                  
              first 
                
              place. 
                  
              
              
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            • William Jordan
              I can relate to your frustration. The facts unfortunately backs up my analysis, I used MPDs own stats. And now you are force to explain the facts away by
              Message 6 of 15 , Jan 10, 2007

                I can relate to your frustration. The facts unfortunately backs up my analysis, I used MPDs own stats. And now you are force to explain the facts away by attempting to turn reality into a popularity contest. .
                Having to put Mr. Graham's policies and actions on the spot is not my preference, its not really personal.  However, like Bush in Iraq, we must face the facts of our public safety quagmire and a look for new policies based in reality. It is hard to press for a change in our  policies without getting the author of those polices caught in the crossfire. I wish it did not have to be this way.

                Unfortunately you have it backwards, I support approaches that will reduce crime and increase safety with the focus on increasing safety, you seem to be supporting the status quo which has produced no progress in the last 3 years.  The fact is that focusing on increasing safety automatically reduces crime.

                Believe me it is not my preference to turn your Magical Urban Disney Kingdom upside down.  I really wish that the "Wizard of Oz" was real too.  I trying to help Mr. Graham by getting some changes in policy before folk start to pull back the curtain.   If I truely hated Mr. Graham, I would remain silent and go along with the charade that is 3D/Ward 1 public safety policy.  Instead of focusing on me, I suggest that Graham supports sitdown with him and help him to draft some coherent policies and approaches.

                William


                jhorvatsr wrote:
                Lord help us! I never thought I'd see the day when William Jordan, 
                the most gramatically challenged gadfly to ever sit in front of a 
                computer keyboard, would stoop so low as to be AGAINST a reduction in 
                crime. Neighbors, I think we can all take this as a sign to tune this 
                guy out once and for all. He is nothing more than a joke. I wouldn't 
                be suprised if he were laughing at us right now. He is so ridiculous 
                that he can't be real and responding to his insanity only crowds up 
                the e-mail traffic. I can now understand why so many police precincts 
                react to citizen calls with such rude skepticism. A few calls from 
                William and the officers would assume we're all a bunch of nuts who 
                have no credibility. Also, for some reason, he's really got it out 
                for Jim Graham and I wonder if any of it has to do with Graham's 
                positions or track record. Perhaps there's something personal about 
                Graham that he just can't stomach. He certainly hasn't come up with 
                even a scintilla of criticism for Marion Barry. I wonder why? Either 
                way, his intense hatred for Graham reveals an obvious prejudice that 
                probably has nothing to do with Graham the councilman.
                
                When I was gullible enough to participate on this board some time ago 
                I went round and round with William after he referred to the 
                expansion of the Yellow Line as a "boondoggle." What kind of 
                nuttiness is that? Expanding an overburdened, crowded subway system 
                is wrong? But of course, reducing crime is also wrong, isn't it? 
                
                I know I'm going against my own advice but PLEASE don't give this guy 
                any more attention. Even though I laugh, like we all do, at some of 
                his more witty opponents, I suggest we ignore this non-productive, 
                negative force. He seems to crave any attention he can get. Let him 
                practice his awkward, self-important condescension in a vacuum. 
                Perhaps then, he'll get sucked up in the void of his own self-
                delusion. We can only hope. In the meantime, I'll await the arrival 
                of USEFUL news and insight on this board. 
                
                Happy New Year. 
                
                John 
                
                  

              • William Jordan
                ... Now that the YellowLine extension is safely in place, we should be able to take a less emotional look at how we must evaluate such opportunities, if we are
                Message 7 of 15 , Jan 11, 2007
                  ...When I was gullible enough to participate on this board some time ago 
                  I went round and round with William after he referred to the 
                  expansion of the Yellow Line as a "boondoggle." What kind of 
                  nuttiness is that? Expanding an overburdened, crowded subway system 
                  is wrong? But of course, reducing crime is also wrong, isn't it? ...
                  
                  John 
                    
                   Now that the YellowLine extension is safely in place, we should be able to take a less emotional look at how we must evaluate such opportunities, if we are going to make the best choices for our Ward.  Supporters of the extension have often happens focused on the narrow benefits of  the extension vs. no extension.  Basically that by investing approx. $5.8M wait times would drop approx. in half during off peak times; therefore, improving convenience and therefore ridership.   As well reducing car traffic and increasing visitors to our commercial districts.  What, I tried to explain to John is that this type of analysis is incomplete.  And  given the needs of the ward we cannot afford to do projects just because we like them and can find some benefit in them.  This standard is to low if we are to reach our potential as both a community of inclusiveness and prosperity.

                  First the $5.8M is a tax payer subsidy, Metro service is not self sustaining therefore the $5.8M will not be made up in fares.  And the goodwill via traffic reduction, spending and etc. is not  quantifiable in concrete terms and really does not count for much in a serious analysis.   Secondly, the $5.8M came directly from the District's budget, this was not a gift from a Metro budget surplus somewhere (which we know now is a $116M deficit).  This means that  some other uses in the District's budget was cut or went unfunded.  Further because of how the budget earmarking process works and since this was basically a Ward 1 project, the $5.8M came from other Ward 1 projects.  Therefore, a true comparison would include the benefits lost from loosing these other projects.  And of course this is what occurred. I can't tell you which Ward 1 project(s) was lost to fund the Yellowline extension in for  direct comparison, but I do know some of the projects that lost funding or went unfunded or underfunded in the Ward as the yellowline money was being carved out.

                  - We lost some H-Line bus service
                  -  A housing project on Georgia & Lamont lost funding
                  -  The affordable & workforce housing project that will now host a charter school lost funding
                  -  The Lincoln Theater is now struggling to stay afloat because they are not going to get its expected government subsidy.
                  -  The Columbia Heights Public Realm Plan is underfunded as well CH/Mt. Traffic Study recommendations.
                  - WMATA has delayed bus upgrades
                  - An indirect result is that moneys from the TIF and NIF funds that should be going to support small business development and retension, job training, public safety and human infrastructure projects is now being spent on transporation and public space projects.  

                  So while I personally benefit from the 6 to 10 minute Metro wait saved by the added off peak service, I  also lost from the absence or delay of many of the above projects.  Given that the extension project runs out at the point when DC USA and other CH projects will really need the added off-peak service provided by the YellowLine extension for me the current extension is a luxury.  So whether I like the project or not to have it now does not compare to its cost.    And although Metro came up with away to achieve the extension for $5.8M vs. tens of millions,  for me this like the professional conference in Disneyland or Las Vegas  a nice boondoggle.  While in the end most in the community may disagree and value this project over other options, that I may not like but can live with and respect, we must be clear that we are making a choice and that choice should be as transparent as possible. Even if politically inconvenient.  And I believe it is the responsibility of our council representive to make us aware of these types of choices vs. focusing on the amount of political hay that can be made.

                  We must also understand that we have other choices to make or at least choices are being made in our names on  issues from housing, to transportation to public safety.  Each choice is in someway helping to determine whether we are a community of Inclusion or Exclusion.  

                  William













                • Richard Layman
                  It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line expansion. These kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set of transportation
                  Message 8 of 15 , Jan 11, 2007
                    It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion."  These kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set of transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that considers not only your ward but the entire city.
                     
                    WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day which I won't include here other than a link (http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2007/01/cultural-resources-planning-in-dc-in.html) because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.
                     
                    I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum all had similar problems.  Skipping over the details, this communicates a more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the city seems to like doing business.
                    As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming back from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it can be close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make choices.  And that those choices are based in large part by demand.  Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will somehow drive massive increases in demand.
                     
                    Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in graduate school.
                     
                    But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live over there. 
                     
                    RL

                    William Jordan <whj@...> wrote:
                    ...When I was gullible enough to participate on this board some time ago   I went round and round with William after he referred to the   expansion of the Yellow Line as a "boondoggle. " What kind of   nuttiness is that? Expanding an overburdened, crowded subway system   is wrong? But of course, reducing crime is also wrong, isn't it? ...    John     
                     Now that the YellowLine extension is safely in place, we should be able to take a less emotional look at how we must evaluate such opportunities, if we are going to make the best choices for our Ward.  Supporters of the extension have often happens focused on the narrow benefits of  the extension vs. no extension.  Basically that by investing approx. $5.8M wait times would drop approx. in half during off peak times; therefore, improving convenience and therefore ridership.   As well reducing car traffic and increasing visitors to our commercial districts.  What, I tried to explain to John is that this type of analysis is incomplete.  And  given the needs of the ward we cannot afford to do projects just because we like them and can find some benefit in them.  This standard is to low if we are to reach our potential as both a community of inclusiveness and prosperity.

                    First the $5.8M is a tax payer subsidy, Metro service is not self sustaining therefore the $5.8M will not be made up in fares.  And the goodwill via traffic reduction, spending and etc. is not  quantifiable in concrete terms and really does not count for much in a serious analysis.   Secondly, the $5.8M came directly from the District's budget, this was not a gift from a Metro budget surplus somewhere (which we know now is a $116M deficit).  This means that  some other uses in the District's budget was cut or went unfunded.  Further because of how the budget earmarking process works and since this was basically a Ward 1 project, the $5.8M came from other Ward 1 projects.  Therefore, a true comparison would include the benefits lost from loosing these other projects.  And of course this is what occurred. I can't tell you which Ward 1 project(s) was lost to fund the Yellowline extension in for  direct comparison, but I do know some of the projects that lost funding or went unfunded or underfunded in the Ward as the yellowline money was being carved out.

                    - We lost some H-Line bus service
                    -  A housing project on Georgia & Lamont lost funding
                    -  The affordable & workforce housing project that will now host a charter school lost funding
                    -  The Lincoln Theater is now struggling to stay afloat because they are not going to get its expected government subsidy.
                    -  The Columbia Heights Public Realm Plan is underfunded as well CH/Mt. Traffic Study recommendations.
                    - WMATA has delayed bus upgrades
                    - An indirect result is that moneys from the TIF and NIF funds that should be going to support small business development and retension, job training, public safety and human infrastructure projects is now being spent on transporation and public space projects.  

                    So while I personally benefit from the 6 to 10 minute Metro wait saved by the added off peak service, I  also lost from the absence or delay of many of the above projects.  Given that the extension project runs out at the point when DC USA and other CH projects will really need the added off-peak service provided by the YellowLine extension for me the current extension is a luxury.  So whether I like the project or not to have it now does not compare to its cost.    And although Metro came up with away to achieve the extension for $5.8M vs. tens of millions,  for me this like the professional conference in Disneyland or Las Vegas  a nice boondoggle.  While in the end most in the community may disagree and value this project over other options, that I may not like but can live with and respect, we must be clear that we are making a choice and that choice should be as transparent as possible. Even if politically inconvenient.  And I believe it is the responsibility of our council representive to make us aware of these types of choices vs. focusing on the amount of political hay that can be made.

                    We must also understand that we have other choices to make or at least choices are being made in our names on  issues from housing, to transportation to public safety.  Each choice is in someway helping to determine whether we are a community of Inclusion or Exclusion.  

                    William














                  • William Jordan
                    Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line with what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999(?) concerning the
                    Message 9 of 15 , Jan 11, 2007
                      Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line with
                      what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999(?)
                      concerning the restoration of the Tivoli Theater. I believe it was
                      taped, DC channel 13 may have it. One point that was made is that
                      theaters are almost never self sustaining. That a city/community much
                      value the arts enough to make a long term commitment to supporting
                      theater and the arts. Relying on the gate and subscriptions is not
                      going to cut it. There was one city that was mentioned as a model, but I
                      don't remember the name.

                      Unfortunately, the Lincoln besides the diffuculty of running a theater
                      is the subject to other dynamics over "who" should control the theater.

                      Metro, I believe is going through an identy crisis. On one hand it is
                      viewed as a utility and on the other there's a drive to make it an
                      entertainment venue and status symbol. And on which one of these is
                      best for serving its growth. Unfortunately, under current governance we
                      are getting a hybrid that is somewhat lost in between. Especially, as
                      we stray towards the ugly side of transit oriented development, where
                      the system is becoming overly focused on real estate development. And
                      transit begins to drive the nature of a neighborhood rather than serve
                      neighborhoods. The problem with Metro at least in DC is that it is not
                      allowed to serve the demand that it has. In general we have the cart
                      before the horse because we want transit, architecture and structures to
                      create place, but is people who create place.


                      William


                      Richard Layman wrote:

                      > It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion." These
                      > kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set of
                      > transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that considers
                      > not only your ward but the entire city.
                      >
                      > WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day which I
                      > won't include here other than a link
                      > (http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2007/01/cultural-resources-planning-in-dc-in.html)
                      > because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural
                      > resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.
                      >
                      > I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum all
                      > had similar problems. Skipping over the details, this communicates a
                      > more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the city
                      > seems to like doing business.
                      > As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming back
                      > from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it can be
                      > close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the
                      > reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and
                      > recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make
                      > choices. And that those choices are based in large part by demand.
                      > Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the
                      > change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased
                      > frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that
                      > infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will somehow
                      > drive massive increases in demand.
                      >
                      > Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in
                      > graduate school.
                      >
                      > But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live over
                      > there.
                      >
                      > RL
                    • halyadoing
                      O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention, a kingdom for a stage, princes to act And monarchs to behold the swelling scene!
                      Message 10 of 15 , Jan 12, 2007
                        O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of
                        invention, a kingdom for a stage, princes to act
                        And monarchs to behold the swelling scene! Then should the warlike
                        William, like himself, go back home to the port of Mars; where he was
                        born and raised, and learned of the ways of comprehensivess and long
                        term commitment to driving us to insanity way beyond our years on
                        this heavenly planet, flustered by real estate development and public
                        transportation and endless jawboning about nothingness and nobody.

                        Think when we talk of place, that you see people printing their proud
                        naked feet i' the receiving earth; for 'tis your thoughts that now
                        must deck our councilmen, carry them here and there; jumping o'er
                        activist obstacles, turning the accomplishments of many years into an
                        hour-glass: for which William opens and fills with more sand, admit
                        me Chorus to this history; who prologue-like your humble patience
                        pray, gently to hear, kindly to judge, turn William away and let's
                        begin a real play.

                        And this, good audience, should raise the curtain that creeps slowly
                        to the floor. Dusty and drab, it's fringes advancing from our hobbled
                        stage once more. For while this jib and jab was brewing; our witches
                        conjured up Halyadoing, to paint a scene with a familar name, devoid
                        of politics, anger and blame.

                        The Players

                        Halyadoing.....................................Hugh Morris
                        William........................................Rudy Nuff
                        Cheesy.........................................Hisself
                        Cheesy's Mama..................................Kathy Bates
                        Richard Layman.................................Matthew McConaughey
                        Sara Akbar.....................................Aishwarya Rai







                        --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...>
                        wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line
                        with
                        > what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999
                        (?)
                        > concerning the restoration of the Tivoli Theater. I believe it
                        was
                        > taped, DC channel 13 may have it. One point that was made is that
                        > theaters are almost never self sustaining. That a city/community
                        much
                        > value the arts enough to make a long term commitment to supporting
                        > theater and the arts. Relying on the gate and subscriptions is not
                        > going to cut it. There was one city that was mentioned as a model,
                        but I
                        > don't remember the name.
                        >
                        > Unfortunately, the Lincoln besides the diffuculty of running a
                        theater
                        > is the subject to other dynamics over "who" should control the
                        theater.
                        >
                        > Metro, I believe is going through an identy crisis. On one hand it
                        is
                        > viewed as a utility and on the other there's a drive to make it an
                        > entertainment venue and status symbol. And on which one of these
                        is
                        > best for serving its growth. Unfortunately, under current
                        governance we
                        > are getting a hybrid that is somewhat lost in between. Especially,
                        as
                        > we stray towards the ugly side of transit oriented development,
                        where
                        > the system is becoming overly focused on real estate development.
                        And
                        > transit begins to drive the nature of a neighborhood rather than
                        serve
                        > neighborhoods. The problem with Metro at least in DC is that it is
                        not
                        > allowed to serve the demand that it has. In general we have the
                        cart
                        > before the horse because we want transit, architecture and
                        structures to
                        > create place, but is people who create place.
                        >
                        >
                        > William
                        >
                        >
                        > Richard Layman wrote:
                        >
                        > > It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion."
                        These
                        > > kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set
                        of
                        > > transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that
                        considers
                        > > not only your ward but the entire city.
                        > >
                        > > WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day
                        which I
                        > > won't include here other than a link
                        > > (http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2007/01/cultural-
                        resources-planning-in-dc-in.html)
                        > > because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural
                        > > resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.
                        > >
                        > > I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum
                        all
                        > > had similar problems. Skipping over the details, this
                        communicates a
                        > > more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the
                        city
                        > > seems to like doing business.
                        > > As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming
                        back
                        > > from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it
                        can be
                        > > close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the
                        > > reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and
                        > > recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make
                        > > choices. And that those choices are based in large part by
                        demand.
                        > > Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the
                        > > change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased
                        > > frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that
                        > > infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will
                        somehow
                        > > drive massive increases in demand.
                        > >
                        > > Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in
                        > > graduate school.
                        > >
                        > > But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live
                        over
                        > > there.
                        > >
                        > > RL
                        >
                      • William Jordan
                        Actually, I was thinking of this play [DRAFT]: Title: Poetic In Justice Sub Title: Grammies & Gennies Setting: Columbia Heights in a pseudo parallel universe
                        Message 11 of 15 , Jan 12, 2007

                          Actually, I was thinking of this play [DRAFT]:

                          Title: "Poetic In Justice"
                          Sub Title: Grammies & Gennies
                          Setting: Columbia Heights in a pseudo parallel universe

                          The Plot Line: Trapped in a pseudo parallel universe where people attempt to navigate reality or real-life-activity under the influence of a drug known on the streets as "grammies". The people have become addicted to "grammies" in a failed attempt to soothe the "Genny" so to speak that is now rides their backs. "Genny" is a state and a state of mind where fantasy is reality and where life is viewed through lofty plate glassed con-doze. However as is often the case, real-life-activity has a way of awakening the people from the doze of the con. Shocked by cold reality, the people begin to demand action. In response the people are given/fed quick reacting "grammies" which temporarily soothe the "Genny" via the placebo affect of the grammies. While "grammies" don't solve the problems that come when the plate glassed world of the "Genny" faces real-life-activity grammies are cheap and sweet so they are available to pop all day.

                          Soon, a band of rebels begin to deconstruct the "Genny" and her world of con-doze. The rebels refuse and resist the placebo affect of the "grammies" and on the one begin to lay down a poly-funky rebellious base line. Causing the plate glass of Genny's world to begin to vibrate at the resonant frequency of the groove and full deconstruction. Soon, the rebels inspired by Star Child a clone of Dr. Funkenstien are confronted by a counter-groove-insurgency force lead by the fairytale spouting Devoid-of-fact Doze Master Halyadozing. Through a series of encounters the audience is lead to a great showdown between Star Child and Halyadozing at 14th & Parked Rd, where the grammy filled transportation plan-a-roti are throwing a Auto Jam. As the final scene begins to unfold Halyodozing is handing out "grammies" like "Genny" handed out interest only mortgages. Star Child is laying down and cranking up a base line rooted in the funky poly-rhythms of real-life-activity. The old story comes to a head as the irresistible force meets the immoveable object.

                          William

                          halyadoing wrote:
                          O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of 
                          invention, a kingdom for a stage, princes to act
                          And monarchs to behold the swelling scene! Then should the warlike 
                          William, like himself, go back home to the port of Mars; where he was 
                          born and raised, and learned of the ways of comprehensivess and long 
                          term commitment to driving us to insanity way beyond our years on 
                          this heavenly planet, flustered by real estate development and public 
                          transportation and endless jawboning about nothingness and nobody. 
                          
                          Think when we talk of place, that you see people printing their proud 
                          naked feet i' the receiving earth; for 'tis your thoughts that now 
                          must deck our councilmen, carry them here and there; jumping o'er 
                          activist obstacles, turning the accomplishments of many years into an 
                          hour-glass: for which William opens and fills with more sand, admit 
                          me Chorus to this history; who prologue-like your humble patience 
                          pray, gently to hear, kindly to judge, turn William away and let's 
                          begin a real play.
                          
                          And this, good audience, should raise the curtain that creeps slowly 
                          to the floor. Dusty and drab, it's fringes advancing from our hobbled 
                          stage once more. For while this jib and jab was brewing; our witches 
                          conjured up Halyadoing, to paint a scene with a familar name, devoid 
                          of politics, anger and blame. 
                          
                          The Players
                          
                          Halyadoing.....................................Hugh Morris
                          William........................................Rudy Nuff    
                          Cheesy.........................................Hisself
                          Cheesy's Mama..................................Kathy Bates
                          Richard Layman.................................Matthew McConaughey
                          Sara Akbar.....................................Aishwarya Rai
                          
                          
                          
                          
                          
                          
                          
                          --- In columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com, William Jordan <whj@...> 
                          wrote:
                            
                          Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line 
                              
                          with 
                            
                          what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999
                              
                          (?) 
                            
                          concerning the restoration of the Tivoli Theater.   I believe it 
                              
                          was 
                            
                          taped, DC channel 13 may have it.   One point that was made is that 
                          theaters are almost never self sustaining. That a city/community 
                              
                          much 
                            
                          value the arts enough to make a long term commitment to supporting 
                          theater and the arts.  Relying on the gate and subscriptions is not 
                          going to cut it. There was one city that was mentioned as a model, 
                              
                          but I 
                            
                          don't remember the name.
                          
                          Unfortunately, the Lincoln besides the diffuculty of running a 
                              
                          theater 
                            
                          is the subject to other dynamics over "who" should control the 
                              
                          theater.  
                            
                          Metro, I believe is going through an identy crisis.  On one hand it 
                              
                          is 
                            
                          viewed as a utility and on the  other there's a drive to make it an 
                          entertainment venue and status symbol.  And on which one of these 
                              
                          is 
                            
                          best for serving its growth. Unfortunately, under current 
                              
                          governance we 
                            
                          are getting a hybrid that is somewhat lost in between.  Especially, 
                              
                          as 
                            
                          we stray towards the ugly side of transit oriented development, 
                              
                          where 
                            
                          the system is becoming overly focused on real estate development. 
                              
                          And 
                            
                          transit begins to drive the nature of a neighborhood rather than 
                              
                          serve 
                            
                          neighborhoods.  The problem with Metro at least in DC is that it is 
                              
                          not 
                            
                          allowed to serve the demand that it has.  In general we have the 
                              
                          cart 
                            
                          before the horse because we want transit, architecture and 
                              
                          structures to 
                            
                          create place, but is people who create place.
                           
                          
                          William
                          
                          
                          Richard Layman wrote:
                          
                              
                          It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion."  
                                
                          These 
                            
                          kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set 
                                
                          of 
                            
                          transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that 
                                
                          considers 
                            
                          not only your ward but the entire city.
                           
                          WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day 
                                
                          which I 
                            
                          won't include here other than a link 
                          (http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2007/01/cultural-
                                
                          resources-planning-in-dc-in.html) 
                            
                          because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural 
                          resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.
                           
                          I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum 
                                
                          all 
                            
                          had similar problems.  Skipping over the details, this 
                                
                          communicates a 
                            
                          more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the 
                                
                          city 
                            
                          seems to like doing business.
                          As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming 
                                
                          back 
                            
                          from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it 
                                
                          can be 
                            
                          close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the 
                          reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and 
                          recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make 
                          choices.  And that those choices are based in large part by 
                                
                          demand.  
                            
                          Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the 
                          change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased 
                          frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that 
                          infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will 
                                
                          somehow 
                            
                          drive massive increases in demand.
                           
                          Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in 
                          graduate school.
                           
                          But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live 
                                
                          over 
                            
                          there. 
                           
                          RL
                                
                          
                          
                          
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                        • Richard Layman
                          I suggest competing youtube scenarios... William Jordan wrote: Actually, I was thinking of this play [DRAFT]: Title: Poetic In Justice Sub
                          Message 12 of 15 , Jan 12, 2007
                            I suggest competing youtube scenarios...

                            William Jordan <whj@...> wrote:

                            Actually, I was thinking of this play [DRAFT]:

                            Title: "Poetic In Justice"
                            Sub Title: Grammies & Gennies
                            Setting: Columbia Heights in a pseudo parallel universe

                            The Plot Line: Trapped in a pseudo parallel universe where people attempt to navigate reality or real-life-activity under the influence of a drug known on the streets as "grammies". The people have become addicted to "grammies" in a failed attempt to soothe the "Genny" so to speak that is now rides their backs. "Genny" is a state and a state of mind where fantasy is reality and where life is viewed through lofty plate glassed con-doze. However as is often the case, real-life-activity has a way of awakening the people from the doze of the con. Shocked by cold reality, the people begin to demand action. In response the people are given/fed quick reacting "grammies" which temporarily soothe the "Genny" via the placebo affect of the grammies. While "grammies" don't solve the problems that come when the plate glassed world of the "Genny" faces real-life-activity grammies are cheap and sweet so they are available to pop all day.

                            Soon, a band of rebels begin to deconstruct the "Genny" and her world of con-doze. The rebels refuse and resist the placebo affect of the "grammies" and on the one begin to lay down a poly-funky rebellious base line. Causing the plate glass of Genny's world to begin to vibrate at the resonant frequency of the groove and full deconstruction. Soon, the rebels inspired by Star Child a clone of Dr. Funkenstien are confronted by a counter-groove- insurgency force lead by the fairytale spouting Devoid-of-fact Doze Master Halyadozing. Through a series of encounters the audience is lead to a great showdown between Star Child and Halyadozing at 14th & Parked Rd, where the grammy filled transportation plan-a-roti are throwing a Auto Jam. As the final scene begins to unfold Halyodozing is handing out "grammies" like "Genny" handed out interest only mortgages. Star Child is laying down and cranking up a base line rooted in the funky poly-rhythms of real-life-activity. The old story comes to a head as the irresistible force meets the immoveable object.

                            William

                            halyadoing wrote:
                            O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of   invention, a kingdom for a stage,
                             princes to act  And monarchs to behold the swelling scene! Then should the warlike   William, like himself, go back home to the port of Mars; where he was   born and raised, and learned of the ways of comprehensivess and long   term commitment to driving us to insanity way beyond our years on   this heavenly planet, flustered by real estate development and public   transportation and endless jawboning about nothingness and nobody.     Think when we talk of place, that you see people printing their proud   naked feet i' the receiving earth; for 'tis your thoughts that now   must deck our councilmen, carry them here and there; jumping o'er   activist obstacles, turning the accomplishments of many years into an   hour-glass: for which William opens and fills with more sand, admit   me Chorus to this history; who prologue-like your humble patience   pray, gently to hear, kindly to judge, turn William away and let's   begin a real play.    And this, good audience, should raise
                             the curtain that creeps slowly   to the floor. Dusty and drab, it's fringes advancing from our hobbled   stage once more. For while this jib and jab was brewing; our witches   conjured up Halyadoing, to paint a scene with a familar name, devoid   of politics, anger and blame.     The Players    Halyadoing.. ......... ......... ......... ........Hugh Morris  William..... ......... ......... ......... ........Rudy Nuff      Cheesy...... ......... ......... ......... ........Hisself  Cheesy's Mama........ ......... ......... ........Kathy Bates  Richard Layman...... ......... ......... ......... Matthew McConaughey  Sara Akbar....... ......... ......... ......... ...Aishwarya Rai                --- In columbia_heights@ yahoogroups. com, William Jordan <whj@...>   wrote:    
                            Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line       
                            with     
                            what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999      
                            (?)     
                            concerning the restoration of the Tivoli Theater.   I believe it       
                            was     
                            taped, DC channel 13 may have it.   One point that was made is that   theaters are almost never self sustaining. That a city/community       
                            much     
                            value the arts enough to make a long term commitment to supporting   theater and the arts.  Relying on the gate and subscriptions is not   going to cut it. There was one city that was
                             mentioned as a model,       
                            but I     
                            don't remember the name.    Unfortunately, the Lincoln besides the diffuculty of running a       
                            theater     
                            is the subject to other dynamics over "who" should control the       
                            theater.      
                            Metro, I believe is going through an identy crisis.  On one hand it       
                            is     
                            viewed as a utility and on the  other there's a drive to make it an   entertainment venue and status symbol.  And on which one of these       
                            is     
                            best for serving its growth. Unfortunately, under current       
                            governance we     
                            are getting a hybrid that is somewhat lost in between.  Especially,       
                            as     
                            we stray towards the ugly side of transit oriented development,       
                            where     
                            the system is becoming overly focused on real estate development.       
                            And     
                            transit begins to drive the nature of a neighborhood rather than       
                            serve     
                            neighborhoods.  The problem with Metro at least in DC is that it is       
                            not     
                            allowed to serve the demand that it has.  In general we have the       
                            cart     
                            before the
                             horse because we want transit, architecture and       
                            structures to     
                            create place, but is people who create place.       William      Richard Layman wrote:        
                            It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion."          
                            These     
                            kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set         
                            of     
                            transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that         
                            considers     
                            not only your ward but the entire city.     WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day
                                     
                            which I     
                            won't include here other than a link   (http://urbanplacesa ndspaces. blogspot. com/2007/ 01/cultural-        
                            resources-planning- in-dc-in. html)     
                            because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural   resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.     I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum         
                            all     
                            had similar problems.  Skipping over the details, this         
                            communicates a    
                             
                            more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the         
                            city     
                            seems to like doing business.  As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming         
                            back     
                            from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it         
                            can be     
                            close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the   reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and   recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make   choices.  And that those choices are based in large part by        
                             
                            demand.      
                            Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the   change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased   frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that   infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will         
                            somehow     
                            drive massive increases in demand.     Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in   graduate school.     But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live         
                            over     
                            there.      RL        
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                            Could you two please take this kind of argument off-line? Frances ... From: halyadoing@yahoo.com To: columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007
                            Message 13 of 15 , Jan 13, 2007
                               Could you two please take this kind of argument off-line? 
                               
                              Frances
                               
                               
                               
                               
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: halyadoing@...
                              To: columbia_heights@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:59 PM
                              Subject: [columbia_heights] Re: Crime is downeth, William. Spineth all you wanteth.

                              O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of
                              invention, a kingdom for a stage, princes to act
                              And monarchs to behold the swelling scene! Then should the warlike
                              William, like himself, go back home to the port of Mars; where he was
                              born and raised, and learned of the ways of comprehensivess and long
                              term commitment to driving us to insanity way beyond our years on
                              this heavenly planet, flustered by real estate development and public
                              transportation and endless jawboning about nothingness and nobody.

                              Think when we talk of place, that you see people printing their proud
                              naked feet i' the receiving earth; for 'tis your thoughts that now
                              must deck our councilmen, carry them here and there; jumping o'er
                              activist obstacles, turning the accomplishments of many years into an
                              hour-glass: for which William opens and fills with more sand, admit
                              me Chorus to this history; who prologue-like your humble patience
                              pray, gently to hear, kindly to judge, turn William away and let's
                              begin a real play.

                              And this, good audience, should raise the curtain that creeps slowly
                              to the floor. Dusty and drab, it's fringes advancing from our hobbled
                              stage once more. For while this jib and jab was brewing; our witches
                              conjured up Halyadoing, to paint a scene with a familar name, devoid
                              of politics, anger and blame.

                              The Players

                              Halyadoing.. ......... ......... ......... ........Hugh Morris
                              William..... ......... ......... ......... ........Rudy Nuff
                              Cheesy...... ......... ......... ......... ........Hisself
                              Cheesy's Mama........ ......... ......... ........Kathy Bates
                              Richard Layman...... ......... ......... ......... Matthew McConaughey
                              Sara Akbar....... ......... ......... ......... ...Aishwarya Rai

                              --- In columbia_heights@ yahoogroups. com, William Jordan <whj@...>
                              wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              > Richard in terms of the Lincoln Theater your comments are in line
                              with
                              > what was said at a special hearing held by Mr. Graham back in 1999
                              (?)
                              > concerning the restoration of the Tivoli Theater. I believe it
                              was
                              > taped, DC channel 13 may have it. One point that was made is that
                              > theaters are almost never self sustaining. That a city/community
                              much
                              > value the arts enough to make a long term commitment to supporting
                              > theater and the arts. Relying on the gate and subscriptions is not
                              > going to cut it. There was one city that was mentioned as a model,
                              but I
                              > don't remember the name.
                              >
                              > Unfortunately, the Lincoln besides the diffuculty of running a
                              theater
                              > is the subject to other dynamics over "who" should control the
                              theater.
                              >
                              > Metro, I believe is going through an identy crisis. On one hand it
                              is
                              > viewed as a utility and on the other there's a drive to make it an
                              > entertainment venue and status symbol. And on which one of these
                              is
                              > best for serving its growth. Unfortunately, under current
                              governance we
                              > are getting a hybrid that is somewhat lost in between. Especially,
                              as
                              > we stray towards the ugly side of transit oriented development,
                              where
                              > the system is becoming overly focused on real estate development.
                              And
                              > transit begins to drive the nature of a neighborhood rather than
                              serve
                              > neighborhoods. The problem with Metro at least in DC is that it is
                              not
                              > allowed to serve the demand that it has. In general we have the
                              cart
                              > before the horse because we want transit, architecture and
                              structures to
                              > create place, but is people who create place.
                              >
                              >
                              > William
                              >
                              >
                              > Richard Layman wrote:
                              >
                              > > It happens I agree with Wm. about the yellow line "expansion."
                              These
                              > > kinds of decisions should be made in concert with an overall set
                              of
                              > > transportation priorities, and a cost-benefit analysis that
                              considers
                              > > not only your ward but the entire city.
                              > >
                              > > WRT the Lincoln, I wrote a blog entry about this the other day
                              which I
                              > > won't include here other than a link
                              > > (http://urbanplacesa ndspaces. blogspot. com/2007/ 01/cultural-
                              resources-planning- in-dc-in. html)
                              > > because it includes a very long memo about how to fund cultural
                              > > resources systematically rather than in an adhoc fashion.
                              > >
                              > > I mean, the Source Theatre, Heurich Mansion, and the City Museum
                              all
                              > > had similar problems. Skipping over the details, this
                              communicates a
                              > > more structural or systemic response, rather than the way the
                              city
                              > > seems to like doing business.
                              > > As a transit user, I am not always happy about long waits (coming
                              back
                              > > from U of Maryland from a class, if you just miss the train, it
                              can be
                              > > close to a 20 minute wait after 10 pm) but I am fine with the
                              > > reliability of the system, knowing the train will come, and
                              > > recognizing that in the great scheme of things, you have to make
                              > > choices. And that those choices are based in large part by
                              demand.
                              > > Sometimes, with the subway, it's better that demand drive the
                              > > change--busy overfull trains--rather than hoping that increased
                              > > frequency of service (recognize that the service isn't all that
                              > > infrequent compared to other places such as Baltimore) will
                              somehow
                              > > drive massive increases in demand.
                              > >
                              > > Not that you care, but this is a question I hope to research in
                              > > graduate school.
                              > >
                              > > But I am too lazy to look at the 3D crime data since I don't live
                              over
                              > > there.
                              > >
                              > > RL
                              >


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