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Re: [coldwarcomms] Digest Number 264

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  • art maples
    I don t know about Pimmit Hills but Ed Thelen s website list includes W-74 Fairfax/Pohick and W-83 Herndon/Dranesfille as some of the Washington area Nike
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      I don't know about "Pimmit Hills" but Ed Thelen's website list includes W-74
      Fairfax/Pohick and W-83 Herndon/Dranesfille as some of the Washington area
      Nike sites.

      Art Maples
      http://www.duotone.com/coldwar/

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      > There are 2 messages in this issue.
      >
      > Topics in this digest:
      >
      > 1. Re: DC-area nuclear Nikes
      > From: Albert LaFrance <alafrance@...>
      > 2. Plan DARAH
      > From: Albert LaFrance <alafrance@...>
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 1
      > Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:27:22 -0400
      > From: Albert LaFrance <alafrance@...>
      > Subject: Re: DC-area nuclear Nikes
      >
      > >Having lived in fairfax co. for many years and driving past the lorton
      > site
      > >almost every day in the early 80s i was very interested in the article.
      > the
      > >site was in pristene condition as it was used by the prison to train
      > guards
      > >so i could not get in to explore
      > >however i have been to the other bases off pohick rd. badly vandalized by
      > the
      > >late 70s one bunker not flooded.
      >
      > I live in Falls Church, and two Sundays ago went to the Lorton area to see
      > what remains. Much of the Lorton prison complex has been closed, including
      > the minimum-security unit which occupies the missile site. The perimeter
      > is secured, and from the public road I couldn't see any unusual structures
      > - just a mix of old (possibly Nike-era) buildings, and modern ones.
      > There's an historical marker nearby, describing the Nike sites protecting
      > Washington.
      >
      > > the base at utterback store rd. was also in
      > >great condition ,all buildings good no flooded bunkers
      >
      > Sadly, that site has been removed. All that remains is a spherical radome,
      > with two openings cut in it to make it a play structure, part of a county
      > park. Also some groundwater-monitoring wells.
      >
      > > in fact they were
      > >full of survival supplies !!!! some of them i liberated, cans of buiscuits
      >
      > >and carbohydrate suppliment
      > >that were balls of hard candy. i wish i still had them being worth
      > something
      > >by now :)
      >
      > Right, I read somewhere about a guy who was selling his stash of that candy
      > as Cold War souvenirs!
      >
      > >in fact this base still had power i turned on lights and the bay doors
      > >opened. this site seemed to be as large as the lorton site. at no time did
      > i
      > >see any signs or warnings
      > >in the bunkers about nukes ie radiation warnings nor did i see any
      > seperate
      > >bunkers for the warheads, they would have been kept seperate fromthe
      > missiles
      > >until use.
      >
      > I think the nukes were only at Lorton - not sure, though.
      >
      > >also several books over the years mention another site near the pimmit
      > hills
      > >area
      > >some don't can anyone confirm?? anyone wanting more info please e-mail me
      >
      > Interesting - I don't know of any missile sites near Pimmit Hills, and I
      > couldn't find any mention of one in "To Defend and Deter". Is it possible
      > that the site was some other kind of defense facility, like a radar or
      > communications station?
      >
      > (For those not familiar with the DC area, Pimmit Hills is a 1950s
      > residential neighborhood about 9 miles west of DC, just inside the Capital
      > Beltway).
      >
      > ...Albert
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
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      >
      > Message: 2
      > Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 01:06:27 -0400
      > From: Albert LaFrance <alafrance@...>
      > Subject: Plan DARAH
      >
      > Recently-declassified records of the U.S. Army Office of the Chief Signal
      > Officer include documents from the early 1950s concerning Plan DARAH, which
      > stands for "Department of the Army Alternate Headquarters".
      >
      > DARAH was not a specific facility, but rather a dispersal or relocation
      > plan for various Army components. Army headquarters would relocate to Fort
      > Monroe, VA. The documents mention similar plans for the other services,
      > with Navy HQ moving to the Norfolk, VA naval base and the Air Force going
      > to Langley AFB, VA.
      >
      > It's interesting that all of the service HQ relocation sites were south of
      > Washingon. Certainly these facilities make sense in terms of their normal
      > functions and reasonable distances from Washington, but I wonder if the
      > southern locations also reflect a concern that the concentration of big
      > cities along the northeast coast would be a likely target area.
      >
      > Also rather intriguing is the fact that, despite the age of these records,
      > about ten individual memoranda, plus an entire folder titled "Armed Forces
      > Special Weapons Project 1951-1952" (15 pages) have been withdrawn from the
      > files due to security classification.
      >
      > ...Albert
      >
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