Re: AT&T DC-area m/w licenses
- While I am sure they proliferated the country at one time and now are
extinct, does anyone know
any of the locations of Soviet microwave intercept sites?
- On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 07:33:03AM -0500, Mark Foster wrote:
> From: Mark Foster <mfoster@...>It was always stated that their embassy in Washington, their
> While I am sure they proliferated the country at one time and now are
> extinct, does anyone know
> any of the locations of Soviet microwave intercept sites?
Consultate at the UN and their Consulate in San Fransico were known
sites for extensive intercept, as well as certain estates they owned
on Long Island. There have also been published accounts of the use
of portable intercept gear at a ski resort in upstate NY that happened
have a major route running through it.
One suspects that because the equipment need not be large or
conspicuous, at least to intercept a few targeted circuits rather than
vacuum cleaning thousands of them, there were no doubt many covert
operations involving suitably placed hotel rooms and the like.
I have also seen reports that the US suspected that Soviet
fishing trawlers off the coast near Pearl Harbor and other islands with
US bases were intercepting microwave links that leaked out to sea. I
know they were known to intercept VHF/UHF coms associated with vacationing
Presidents at sea side resorts as early as the JFK years.
Dave Emery N1PRE, die@... DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass.
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- Tim wrote:
> They still store tons of Meals, Ready to Eat along the major accessLess than before, but yes. Were you there in a professional capacity or
rubbernecking (admittedly for a magazine) like me?
> Well, could it not be subsidized by the Greenbrier Resort?The official story is that they do indeed pay for everying without
government subsidy. However it would be a heck of a lot cheaper for them
to just seal it up if that were truly the case. It is hardly a tourist
draw for their clientele. The airconditioning bills alone run to six
figures a year according to their own statement.
> if it was a dedicatedAccording to the Washington Post and the Greenbrier's new official
>COG facility for Congress, I don't really forsee it as having a tremendous
>amount of comms circuits as the traditional facilities dedicated to
>prosecuting a nuclear war and the follow-up reconstitution of US national
history the intention was to ensure the survival of Congress as an intact
arm of government ready to resume its prewar funtion from that site for
as long as need be. The large hall to be used by the Congressional staff
alone had several hundred phone lines, and there were multiple video
channels in the comms centre - not much capacity by today's standards but
of course it was constructed over 30 years ago.
>Yes. Various conflicting explanations, but there appeared to be cable
>> main comms centre has largely been stripped out with just a few frames
>> remaining, but there is a suite of rooms above to which access is denied.
> Fascinating! Did you ask why they were off-limits?
conduits running up into that section, whereas almost all the others had
been severed quite crudely.
> A TV documentary which briefly mention the Greenbrier showed a pop-up HFThere is also a small a pop-up antenna that emerges from the bunker
> antenna, which I think was on Greenbrier Mountain.
itself. Couldnt see what type though.
My thanks to Tim, Albert and Mark for your illuminating replies
- Rereading the interview with Fritz Burgas, former operations director of
the Greenbrier bunker, on Albert's pages I note that he says:-
"The Communication Area was almost as vital as the power plant facility.
You had a myriad of communications available--from the unclassified to
the classified, from telephone to radio, etc. You had an ADP capability
that was, at the time of compromise, second to none. We were right on the
cutting edge there. It was a facility that could handle and could
communicate with other relocation facilities wherever they might be, and
would put the Legislative Branch of government in touch with the
Executive Branch. And, of course, the idea of the whole program was that
in this period of national emergency the Executive, Legislative and the
Judicial Branches of government, should they have had to relocate from
Washington, could have been in communication with each other and could
continue with the business of government. "
- Dave wrote:-
> It was always stated that their embassy in Washington, theirThe Russians occupied a very large building on London's Highgate Hill
>Consulate at the UN and their Consulate in San Fransico were known
>sites for extensive intercept
which was used as their consulate. Coincidently or otherwise the main
northbound microwave beam from the Post Office tower passed just above
its roof. This carried traffic to the principal military command bunkers
at High Wycombe and thereabouts.