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  • rjfrank1@ymail.com
    Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of
    Message 1 of 22 , Feb 27, 2013
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      Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.

      New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)

      Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)

      Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)

      Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)

      Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)

      Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)

      Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)

      Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)

      Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)

      Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)

      Note that Hut #3, Hut #6, and Picayune are active AT&T sites. In the interest of facility security, I am strongly requesting that these sites are NOT to be documented on any publicly viewed site such as Flikr and described/discussed as such. All three can be viewed using Google Earth Street View, which should suffice.

      One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above. There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.

      30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
      31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W

      My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS. This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.

      I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.

      RJFrank


      --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@...> wrote:
      >
      > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
      > > Mike -
      > >
      > :
      > >
      > > I have been able to trace the route to "Picayune" (refer to Map #8) including the remaining huts between this site and New Orleans as well as at least two more huts en-route from Picayune to Hattiesburg. I have been tied up with work since Saturday and haven't been able to post this information yet.
      > >
      > > RJFrank
      >
      > Could you post what you've found when you get a chance, if you haven' posted them under another thread already...
      > Thanks!
      > /cpe
      >
    • Mike Cowen
      Not too cryptic. Regen is simply a fiber repeater. The #9 is interesting. Where are the others , given the throw on a fiber segment is MUCH farther
      Message 2 of 22 , Feb 28, 2013
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        Not too cryptic. "Regen" is simply a fiber
        repeater. The "#9" is interesting. Where are
        the "others", given the throw on a fiber segment
        is MUCH farther than on any cable/microwave hop?

        Mike


        At 09:26 PM 2/27/2013, you wrote:
        >
        >Here are the sites I have located on the New
        >Orleans-Picayune segment of the New
        >Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z
        >for identifying several of the huts deployed
        >along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
        >
        >New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
        >
        >Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
        >
        >Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
        >
        >Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
        >
        >Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
        >
        >Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
        >
        >Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
        >
        >Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
        >
        >Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
        >
        >Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
        >
        >Note that Hut #3, Hut #6, and Picayune are
        >active AT&T sites. In the interest of facility
        >security, I am strongly requesting that these
        >sites are NOT to be documented on any publicly
        >viewed site such as Flikr and
        >described/discussed as such. All three can be
        >viewed using Google Earth Street View, which should suffice.
        >
        >One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic
        >facility description for Picayune that refers to
        >the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location
        >numbering used above. There are two additional
        >auxiliary repeater sites along the
        >Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that
        >I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
        >
        >30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
        >31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
        >
        >My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2,
        >#4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1
        >is based on the presence of the modern fiber
        >route ROW markers located at the legacy
        >infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning
        >with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier
        >coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route
        >deployment within MS. This is not easily
        >discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the
        >fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW,
        >but does become more apparent once the cable
        >route enters MS and turns northward en-route to
        >Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut
        >locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson
        >route that have a fiber repeater site co-located
        >next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary
        >repeater huts also appear to be of similar
        >construction type along each route segment from
        >New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at
        >least the ones I have located so far... It is
        >proving much more difficult to find the repeater
        >sites the farther north on the route I have
        >"traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
        >
        >I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ
        >website for journal entries concerning the L1
        >carrier system to help understand the system
        >design as it relates to the repeater facilities.
        >There appears to be two different types of huts
        >deployed along these routes in-line with the
        >main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I
        >have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier
        >system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
        >
        >RJFrank
        >
        >--- In
        ><mailto:coldwarcomms%40yahoogroups.com>coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com,
        >"cpe122" wrote:
        > >
        > > --- In
        > <mailto:coldwarcomms%40yahoogroups.com>coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com,
        > "rjfrank1@" wrote:
        > > > Mike -
        > > >
        > > :
        > > >
        > > > I have been able to trace the route to
        > "Picayune" (refer to Map #8) including the
        > remaining huts between this site and New
        > Orleans as well as at least two more huts
        > en-route from Picayune to Hattiesburg. I have
        > been tied up with work since Saturday and
        > haven't been able to post this information yet.
        > > >
        > > > RJFrank
        > >
        > > Could you post what you've found when you get
        > a chance, if you haven' posted them under another thread already...
        > > Thanks!
        > > /cpe
        > >
        >
        >

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        and selfless acts of beauty.
        mcowen@... -Anonymous



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      • cpe122
        Here is another dozen huts I ve found over the past week between New Orleans and Jackson, MS; most appear to be one of two tandem /double door designs, but a
        Message 3 of 22 , Apr 27 8:27 PM
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          Here is another dozen huts I've found over the past week between New Orleans and Jackson, MS; most appear to be one of two "tandem"/double door designs, but a few seem unique.

          http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367108602-08508-70.16.72.20.html

          -Blue are the ones that Mike initially found that started this thread,
          -Red are the ones RJ added in previous posts,
          -Yellow are the new ones I'm adding now,
          -Pink are status/location uncertain--educated guesses or approximations,
          -Black are 'I don't know what', and
          -Purple is the New Orleans Main terminal (note the tie to NWOR #2)

          I've tried to link the discovery to the message thread if you click on them; a few of them have links that take you to pictures.

          Raw data extract:
          Jackson,MS,L1,,32.29990, -90.18541,L1<br>coax51.jpg<p>Uncertain,,pink

          Found 4-26 A,,,,32.12244,-90.07304,,,yellow
          Found 4-25 A,,,,32.04936,-89.98448,,,yellow
          Mendenhall,MS,,,31.98844,-89.89554,,,yellow
          Found 4-25 B,,,,31.93425,-89.82155,,,yellow
          Found 4-25 C,,,,31.86433,-89.74843,,,yellow
          Found 4-24 A,,,,31.77684,-89.68343,,,yellow
          Found 4-25 D,,,,31.69446,-89.61556,,,yellow
          Found 4-23 A,,,,31.55722,-89.51422,,,yellow
          Found 4-23 B,,,,31.47219,-89.45419,,,yellow
          Found 4-23 X,,,,31.41951,-89.41361,What is this?,,black

          Hut 16,,,,31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W,,,red
          Lumberton,MS,,,31.04165,-89.43775,,,yellow
          Hut 13,,,,30.96210,-89.50730,Uncertain,,pink
          Hut 12,,,,30.85971,-89.55061,,,yellow
          Hut 11,,,,30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W,,,red

          Picayune,MS,,,30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W,,,red
          Hut #8,,,,30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W,,,red
          Hut #7,,,,30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W,,,red
          Hut #6,,,,30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W,,,red
          Hut #5,,,,30°13'46"N,89°40'34"W,,,red,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8479885514/in/set-72157632841867826
          Hut #4,,,,30.146421,-89.744469,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8467435027/in/photostream/
          Hut #3,,,,30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W,,,red
          Hut #2,,,,30.04069,-89.897768,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8468529322/in/photostream/
          Hut #1,,,,30.01094,-90.009103,,,blue
          New Orleans,LA,,,29°56'58.09"N,90° 4'22.56"W,,,purple
          New Orleans 2,LA,,,29.95360, -90.09737,Broadmoor,,yellow,http://long-lines.net/places-routes/NewOrleansLA/index.html


          /cpe



          p.s. I found the first three or four pages of of the L-3 BSTJ RJ mentioned earlier enlightening:
          http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol32-1953/articles/bstj32-4-781.pdf


          --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@..." <rjfrank1@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          >
          > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
          >
          > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
          >
          > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
          >
          > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
          >
          > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
          >
          > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
          >
          > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
          >
          > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
          >
          > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
          >
          > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
          >
          > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
          >
          > Note that Hut #3, Hut #6, and Picayune are active AT&T sites. In the interest of facility security, I am strongly requesting that these sites are NOT to be documented on any publicly viewed site such as Flikr and described/discussed as such. All three can be viewed using Google Earth Street View, which should suffice.
          >
          > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above. There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
          >
          > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
          > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
          >
          > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS. This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
          >
          > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
          >
          > RJFrank
          >
          >
          > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@> wrote:
          > >
          > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
          > > > Mike -
          > > >
          > > :
          > > >
          > > > I have been able to trace the route to "Picayune" (refer to Map #8) including the remaining huts between this site and New Orleans as well as at least two more huts en-route from Picayune to Hattiesburg. I have been tied up with work since Saturday and haven't been able to post this information yet.
          > > >
          > > > RJFrank
          > >
          > > Could you post what you've found when you get a chance, if you haven' posted them under another thread already...
          > > Thanks!
          > > /cpe
          > >
          >
        • cpe122
          ... I ve read your post several times, each time gleaning a little something more. Referring to Picayune as #9 is consistent with what we know as #2 as it is
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            --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@..." wrote:

            > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
            >
            > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
            >
            > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
            >
            > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
            >
            > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
            >
            > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
            >
            > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
            >
            > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
            >
            > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
            >
            > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
            >
            > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
            :
            > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above.

            I've read your post several times, each time gleaning a little something more. Referring to Picayune as #9 is consistent with what we know as #2 as it is still signed as such. Does this same resource refer to Regen #3 or #6 in some fashion, or more relevant,

            Can this source help us locate hut 10?

            > There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
            > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W

            Shall we call this Hut 11...

            What is strange is what I found for Hut 12 (30.85971,-89.55061) is a different style/configuration. I was expecting something similar to #3, 6 and 9 (Picayune). I'm not sure why that might be at this point, my best guesses so far are:

            1) It only Power Feeds one other hut (to the south) instead of two (as Picayune and Lumberton can power the others), or
            2) The N carrier may have pealed off into Popularville between 11 and 12...

            Either way, the main part of building is somewhat smaller.


            > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W

            Unless we have started counting down to Jackson, I think this should be 16. I've gone half blind looking for 15. Would your source be able to help with this one in Purvis (and/or the first one north of Hattiesburg)?


            > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS.

            I see now. So it would look like either the cables diverge after leaving NWOR Main, converge at #3, split and converge again between #5 and 6, or, the cables are in conduit (and therefore little to no signage) so far out along US 90. It looks like one, or both cables may leave US 90 here: 30.24635,-89.59865.


            > This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
            >
            > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.

            Not having a better understanding of the carrier "make up" is a little frustrating, i.e. the use and distance between regulating and any other non-basic reapters...

            Numerous miscellaneous updates including Hattiesburg and a guess at Collins:
            http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367198641-01857-70.16.72.20.html


            /cpe
          • rjfrank1@ymail.com
            I am sure many of us tracking this stream appreciate your efforts putting the raw data GPS coordinates of the sites in the posting verbiage. GPS Visualizer
            Message 5 of 22 , Apr 30 6:21 PM
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              I am sure many of us tracking this stream appreciate your efforts putting the raw data GPS coordinates of the sites in the posting verbiage. GPS Visualizer works very well graphically presenting the data, but researching the information a week, month, or year later, not so much...

              May I suggest renaming a few of the hut locations to reflect the current site designations? This is based on the common name alias of the fiber regen facility co-located with the coaxial huts.

              Jackson (WHO243), 201-209 East Capitol Street
              Piney Woods = "Hut 4-25 A"
              Magee = "Hut 4-25 C"

              >RJ Frank


              --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@...> wrote:
              >
              > Here is another dozen huts I've found over the past week between New Orleans and Jackson, MS; most appear to be one of two "tandem"/double door designs, but a few seem unique.
              >
              > http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367108602-08508-70.16.72.20.html
              >
              > -Blue are the ones that Mike initially found that started this thread,
              > -Red are the ones RJ added in previous posts,
              > -Yellow are the new ones I'm adding now,
              > -Pink are status/location uncertain--educated guesses or approximations,
              > -Black are 'I don't know what', and
              > -Purple is the New Orleans Main terminal (note the tie to NWOR #2)
              >
              > I've tried to link the discovery to the message thread if you click on them; a few of them have links that take you to pictures.
              >
              > Raw data extract:
              > Jackson,MS,L1,,32.29990, -90.18541,L1<br>coax51.jpg<p>Uncertain,,pink
              >
              > Found 4-26 A,,,,32.12244,-90.07304,,,yellow
              > Found 4-25 A,,,,32.04936,-89.98448,,,yellow
              > Mendenhall,MS,,,31.98844,-89.89554,,,yellow
              > Found 4-25 B,,,,31.93425,-89.82155,,,yellow
              > Found 4-25 C,,,,31.86433,-89.74843,,,yellow
              > Found 4-24 A,,,,31.77684,-89.68343,,,yellow
              > Found 4-25 D,,,,31.69446,-89.61556,,,yellow
              > Found 4-23 A,,,,31.55722,-89.51422,,,yellow
              > Found 4-23 B,,,,31.47219,-89.45419,,,yellow
              > Found 4-23 X,,,,31.41951,-89.41361,What is this?,,black
              >
              > Hut 16,,,,31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W,,,red
              > Lumberton,MS,,,31.04165,-89.43775,,,yellow
              > Hut 13,,,,30.96210,-89.50730,Uncertain,,pink
              > Hut 12,,,,30.85971,-89.55061,,,yellow
              > Hut 11,,,,30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W,,,red
              >
              > Picayune,MS,,,30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W,,,red
              > Hut #8,,,,30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W,,,red
              > Hut #7,,,,30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W,,,red
              > Hut #6,,,,30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W,,,red
              > Hut #5,,,,30°13'46"N,89°40'34"W,,,red,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8479885514/in/set-72157632841867826
              > Hut #4,,,,30.146421,-89.744469,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8467435027/in/photostream/
              > Hut #3,,,,30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W,,,red
              > Hut #2,,,,30.04069,-89.897768,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8468529322/in/photostream/
              > Hut #1,,,,30.01094,-90.009103,,,blue
              > New Orleans,LA,,,29°56'58.09"N,90° 4'22.56"W,,,purple
              > New Orleans 2,LA,,,29.95360, -90.09737,Broadmoor,,yellow,http://long-lines.net/places-routes/NewOrleansLA/index.html
              >
              >
              > /cpe
              >
              >
              >
              > p.s. I found the first three or four pages of of the L-3 BSTJ RJ mentioned earlier enlightening:
              > http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol32-1953/articles/bstj32-4-781.pdf
              >
              >
              > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
              > >
              > > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
              > >
              > > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
              > >
              > > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
              > >
              > > Note that Hut #3, Hut #6, and Picayune are active AT&T sites. In the interest of facility security, I am strongly requesting that these sites are NOT to be documented on any publicly viewed site such as Flikr and described/discussed as such. All three can be viewed using Google Earth Street View, which should suffice.
              > >
              > > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above. There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
              > >
              > > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
              > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
              > >
              > > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS. This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
              > >
              > > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
              > >
              > > RJFrank
              > >
              > >
              > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
              > > > > Mike -
              > > > >
              > > > :
              > > > >
              > > > > I have been able to trace the route to "Picayune" (refer to Map #8) including the remaining huts between this site and New Orleans as well as at least two more huts en-route from Picayune to Hattiesburg. I have been tied up with work since Saturday and haven't been able to post this information yet.
              > > > >
              > > > > RJFrank
              > > >
              > > > Could you post what you've found when you get a chance, if you haven' posted them under another thread already...
              > > > Thanks!
              > > > /cpe
              > > >
              > >
              >
            • rjfrank1@ymail.com
              /cpe - thanks for the comments. Here are a few responses to your questions. ... These facilities are referred to as Chef Menteur and Logtown, respectively.
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                /cpe - thanks for the comments. Here are a few responses to your questions.

                > Does this same resource refer to Regen #3 or #6 in some fashion, ...

                These facilities are referred to as Chef Menteur and Logtown, respectively. Both are active sites on the Hattiesburg-New Orleans fiber route.


                > Can this source help us locate hut 10?

                I spent some time this past weekend on-line attempting to trace the ROW through McNeill, MS and found the hut location.

                Hut #10 (30°40'21.20"N, 89°38'34.51"W)


                > What is strange is what I found for Hut 12 (30.85971,-89.55061) is a different style/configuration. I was expecting something similar to #3, 6 and 9 (Picayune).

                Regen #12 (Poplarville) is also an active site on the Hattiesburg-New Orleans fiber route. There is another fiber repeater site associated with the Hattiesburg-Poplarville segment of the route, but it is not located near any of the former coaxial facilities along the ROW. The Poplarville regen facility strikes me as somewhat similiar structurally to Virgilina RS (36°32'31.81"N, 78°45'26.40"W), albeit Virgilina has fewer building modifications/additions.


                > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
                >
                > Unless we have started counting down to Jackson, I think this should be 16. I've gone half blind looking for 15. Would your source be able to help with this one in Purvis (and/or the first one north of Hattiesburg)?

                I have not yet been to able to locate either hut locations. In respect to Purvis, following the existing ROW would indicate that it should be located somewhere between route markers at (31°10'2.63"N, 89°23'15.71"W), (31° 8'45.11"N, 89°23'32.56"W), and (31° 6'59.20"N, 89°24'18.41"W) assuming the approximate mid-point of the route between Lumberton and Hut #16 along the ROW. Locating the first hut location north of Hattiesburg is more problematic as the coaxial route almost certainly terminated at Hattiesburg Main (KLG21/WHO241), 100 Brunie Street. Following the ROW south of Hut "4-23 B" towards Hattiesburg provides somewhat of a false positive as the fiber ROW ultimately routes towards the AT&T POP (208 South 41st Avenue) and not towards the CO. Another assumption being the coaxial route pre-dates the POP facility by several decades. The BSTJ Volume 32 Number 4, July 1953, L3 Coaxial System Design manuscript provides a "present day network of L1 coaxial systems" route map that shows the Jackson-Hattiesburg-New Orleans route segments.

                >RJ Frank


                --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@...> wrote:
                >
                > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" wrote:
                >
                > > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
                > >
                > > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
                > >
                > > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
                > >
                > > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
                > :
                > > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above.
                >
                > I've read your post several times, each time gleaning a little something more. Referring to Picayune as #9 is consistent with what we know as #2 as it is still signed as such. Does this same resource refer to Regen #3 or #6 in some fashion, or more relevant,
                >
                > Can this source help us locate hut 10?
                >
                > > There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
                > > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
                >
                > Shall we call this Hut 11...
                >
                > What is strange is what I found for Hut 12 (30.85971,-89.55061) is a different style/configuration. I was expecting something similar to #3, 6 and 9 (Picayune). I'm not sure why that might be at this point, my best guesses so far are:
                >
                > 1) It only Power Feeds one other hut (to the south) instead of two (as Picayune and Lumberton can power the others), or
                > 2) The N carrier may have pealed off into Popularville between 11 and 12...
                >
                > Either way, the main part of building is somewhat smaller.
                >
                >
                > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
                >
                > Unless we have started counting down to Jackson, I think this should be 16. I've gone half blind looking for 15. Would your source be able to help with this one in Purvis (and/or the first one north of Hattiesburg)?
                >
                >
                > > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS.
                >
                > I see now. So it would look like either the cables diverge after leaving NWOR Main, converge at #3, split and converge again between #5 and 6, or, the cables are in conduit (and therefore little to no signage) so far out along US 90. It looks like one, or both cables may leave US 90 here: 30.24635,-89.59865.
                >
                >
                > > This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
                > >
                > > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
                >
                > Not having a better understanding of the carrier "make up" is a little frustrating, i.e. the use and distance between regulating and any other non-basic reapters...
                >
                > Numerous miscellaneous updates including Hattiesburg and a guess at Collins:
                > http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367198641-01857-70.16.72.20.html
                >
                >
                > /cpe
                >
              • cpe122
                ... Okay, thank you I guess. Reasonable chunks of that raw data are always available upon request; in this case someone asked off list, so I posted the whole
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                  --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1" wrote:
                  >
                  > I am sure many of us tracking this stream appreciate your efforts putting the raw data GPS coordinates of the sites in the posting verbiage. GPS Visualizer works very well graphically presenting the data, but researching the information a week, month, or year later, not so much...

                  Okay, thank you I guess. Reasonable chunks of that raw data are always available upon request; in this case someone asked off list, so I posted the whole thing to the list seeing that many of you contributed much it to begin with.

                  > May I suggest renaming a few of the hut locations to reflect the current site designations? This is based on the common name alias of the fiber regen facility co-located with the coaxial huts.
                  >
                  > Jackson (WHO243), 201-209 East Capitol Street
                  > Piney Woods = "Hut 4-25 A"
                  > Magee = "Hut 4-25 C"

                  Absolutely! Those were just dates and a letter I stuck in the Name field so I could tell them apart (and not just have them all say 'hut' when "flown over" and clicked on).
                  Thank you.
                  /cpe
                  > >RJ Frank
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Here is another dozen huts I've found over the past week between New Orleans and Jackson, MS; most appear to be one of two "tandem"/double door designs, but a few seem unique.
                  > >
                  > > http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367108602-08508-70.16.72.20.html
                  > >
                  > > -Blue are the ones that Mike initially found that started this thread,
                  > > -Red are the ones RJ added in previous posts,
                  > > -Yellow are the new ones I'm adding now,
                  > > -Pink are status/location uncertain--educated guesses or approximations,
                  > > -Black are 'I don't know what', and
                  > > -Purple is the New Orleans Main terminal (note the tie to NWOR #2)
                  > >
                  > > I've tried to link the discovery to the message thread if you click on them; a few of them have links that take you to pictures.
                  > >
                  > > Raw data extract:
                  > > Jackson,MS,L1,,32.29990, -90.18541,L1<br>coax51.jpg<p>Uncertain,,pink
                  > >
                  > > Found 4-26 A,,,,32.12244,-90.07304,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-25 A,,,,32.04936,-89.98448,,,yellow
                  > > Mendenhall,MS,,,31.98844,-89.89554,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-25 B,,,,31.93425,-89.82155,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-25 C,,,,31.86433,-89.74843,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-24 A,,,,31.77684,-89.68343,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-25 D,,,,31.69446,-89.61556,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-23 A,,,,31.55722,-89.51422,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-23 B,,,,31.47219,-89.45419,,,yellow
                  > > Found 4-23 X,,,,31.41951,-89.41361,What is this?,,black
                  > >
                  > > Hut 16,,,,31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W,,,red
                  > > Lumberton,MS,,,31.04165,-89.43775,,,yellow
                  > > Hut 13,,,,30.96210,-89.50730,Uncertain,,pink
                  > > Hut 12,,,,30.85971,-89.55061,,,yellow
                  > > Hut 11,,,,30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W,,,red
                  > >
                  > > Picayune,MS,,,30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W,,,red
                  > > Hut #8,,,,30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W,,,red
                  > > Hut #7,,,,30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W,,,red
                  > > Hut #6,,,,30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W,,,red
                  > > Hut #5,,,,30°13'46"N,89°40'34"W,,,red,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8479885514/in/set-72157632841867826
                  > > Hut #4,,,,30.146421,-89.744469,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8467435027/in/photostream/
                  > > Hut #3,,,,30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W,,,red
                  > > Hut #2,,,,30.04069,-89.897768,,,blue,http://www.flickr.com/photos/93146890@N02/8468529322/in/photostream/
                  > > Hut #1,,,,30.01094,-90.009103,,,blue
                  > > New Orleans,LA,,,29°56'58.09"N,90° 4'22.56"W,,,purple
                  > > New Orleans 2,LA,,,29.95360, -90.09737,Broadmoor,,yellow,http://long-lines.net/places-routes/NewOrleansLA/index.html
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > /cpe
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > p.s. I found the first three or four pages of of the L-3 BSTJ RJ mentioned earlier enlightening:
                  > > http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/bstj/vol32-1953/articles/bstj32-4-781.pdf
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
                  > > >
                  > > > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
                  > > >
                  > > > Note that Hut #3, Hut #6, and Picayune are active AT&T sites. In the interest of facility security, I am strongly requesting that these sites are NOT to be documented on any publicly viewed site such as Flikr and described/discussed as such. All three can be viewed using Google Earth Street View, which should suffice.
                  > > >
                  > > > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above. There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
                  > > >
                  > > > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
                  > > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
                  > > >
                  > > > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS. This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
                  > > >
                  > > > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
                  > > >
                  > > > RJFrank
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@> wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" <rjfrank1@> wrote:
                  > > > > > Mike -
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > :
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > I have been able to trace the route to "Picayune" (refer to Map #8) including the remaining huts between this site and New Orleans as well as at least two more huts en-route from Picayune to Hattiesburg. I have been tied up with work since Saturday and haven't been able to post this information yet.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > RJFrank
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Could you post what you've found when you get a chance, if you haven' posted them under another thread already...
                  > > > > Thanks!
                  > > > > /cpe
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                • cpe122
                  ... So noted. Thank you. ... Awesome. ... Thanks again, /cpe
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                    --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1" wrote:
                    >
                    > /cpe - thanks for the comments. Here are a few responses to your questions.
                    >
                    > > Does this same resource refer to Regen #3 or #6 in some fashion, ...
                    >
                    > These facilities are referred to as Chef Menteur and Logtown, respectively. Both are active sites on the Hattiesburg-New Orleans fiber route.

                    So noted. Thank you.

                    > > Can this source help us locate hut 10?
                    >
                    > I spent some time this past weekend on-line attempting to trace the ROW through McNeill, MS and found the hut location.
                    >
                    > Hut #10 (30°40'21.20"N, 89°38'34.51"W)

                    Awesome.

                    > > What is strange is what I found for Hut 12 (30.85971,-89.55061) is a different style/configuration. I was expecting something similar to #3, 6 and 9 (Picayune).
                    >
                    > Regen #12 (Poplarville) is also an active site on the Hattiesburg-New Orleans fiber route. There is another fiber repeater site associated with the Hattiesburg-Poplarville segment of the route, but it is not located near any of the former coaxial facilities along the ROW. The Poplarville regen facility strikes me as somewhat similiar structurally to Virgilina RS (36°32'31.81"N, 78°45'26.40"W), albeit Virgilina has fewer building modifications/additions.

                    Thanks again,
                    /cpe

                    > > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
                    > >
                    > > Unless we have started counting down to Jackson, I think this should be 16. I've gone half blind looking for 15. Would your source be able to help with this one in Purvis (and/or the first one north of Hattiesburg)?
                    >
                    > I have not yet been to able to locate either hut locations. In respect to Purvis, following the existing ROW would indicate that it should be located somewhere between route markers at (31°10'2.63"N, 89°23'15.71"W), (31° 8'45.11"N, 89°23'32.56"W), and (31° 6'59.20"N, 89°24'18.41"W) assuming the approximate mid-point of the route between Lumberton and Hut #16 along the ROW. Locating the first hut location north of Hattiesburg is more problematic as the coaxial route almost certainly terminated at Hattiesburg Main (KLG21/WHO241), 100 Brunie Street. Following the ROW south of Hut "4-23 B" towards Hattiesburg provides somewhat of a false positive as the fiber ROW ultimately routes towards the AT&T POP (208 South 41st Avenue) and not towards the CO. Another assumption being the coaxial route pre-dates the POP facility by several decades. The BSTJ Volume 32 Number 4, July 1953, L3 Coaxial System Design manuscript provides a "present day network of L1 coaxial systems" route map that shows the Jackson-Hattiesburg-New Orleans route segments.
                    >
                    > >RJ Frank
                    >
                    >
                    > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "cpe122" <cpe122@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > --- In coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com, "rjfrank1@" wrote:
                    > >
                    > > > Here are the sites I have located on the New Orleans-Picayune segment of the New Orleans-Hattiesburg cable route. Kudos to Mike Z for identifying several of the huts deployed along US90 between New Orleans and the LA/MS border.
                    > > >
                    > > > New Orleans Main (29°56'58.09"N, 90° 4'22.56"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #1 (30° 0'39.33"N, 90° 0'32.70"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #2 (30° 2'26.36"N, 89°53'51.94"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #3 (30° 4'1.68"N, 89°48'23.90"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #4 (30° 8'47.29"N, 89°44'39.97"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #5 (30°13'46.84"N, 89°40'34.05"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #6 (30°16'57.28"N, 89°36'19.13"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #7 (30°23'7.75"N, 89°37'5.69"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Hut #8 (30°28'50.80"N, 89°39'44.32"W)
                    > > >
                    > > > Picayune (30°34'29.77"N, 89°40'2.93"W)
                    > > :
                    > > > One of my resources provides a somewhat cryptic facility description for Picayune that refers to the site as "Regen #9" hence the hut location numbering used above.
                    > >
                    > > I've read your post several times, each time gleaning a little something more. Referring to Picayune as #9 is consistent with what we know as #2 as it is still signed as such. Does this same resource refer to Regen #3 or #6 in some fashion, or more relevant,
                    > >
                    > > Can this source help us locate hut 10?
                    > >
                    > > > There are two additional auxiliary repeater sites along the Picayune-Hattiesburg segment of this route that I have located. Both can be viewed using Google Earth Street View.
                    > > > 30°45'38.75"N, 89°35'18.14"W
                    > >
                    > > Shall we call this Hut 11...
                    > >
                    > > What is strange is what I found for Hut 12 (30.85971,-89.55061) is a different style/configuration. I was expecting something similar to #3, 6 and 9 (Picayune). I'm not sure why that might be at this point, my best guesses so far are:
                    > >
                    > > 1) It only Power Feeds one other hut (to the south) instead of two (as Picayune and Lumberton can power the others), or
                    > > 2) The N carrier may have pealed off into Popularville between 11 and 12...
                    > >
                    > > Either way, the main part of building is somewhat smaller.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > > 31°14'23.13"N, 89°20'45.79"W
                    > >
                    > > Unless we have started counting down to Jackson, I think this should be 16. I've gone half blind looking for 15. Would your source be able to help with this one in Purvis (and/or the first one north of Hattiesburg)?
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > > My earlier comment/assumption that Huts #1, #2, #4, #5 were perhaps originally deployed as L-1 is based on the presence of the modern fiber route ROW markers located at the legacy infrastructure site locations in MS, beginning with Hut #6, indicating the original L-Carrier coaxial ROW had been re-used for fiber route deployment within MS.
                    > >
                    > > I see now. So it would look like either the cables diverge after leaving NWOR Main, converge at #3, split and converge again between #5 and 6, or, the cables are in conduit (and therefore little to no signage) so far out along US 90. It looks like one, or both cables may leave US 90 here: 30.24635,-89.59865.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > > This is not easily discerned in LA along US90 as I believe the fiber ROW no longer overlays the coaxial ROW, but does become more apparent once the cable route enters MS and turns northward en-route to Hattiesburg at Hut #6, as well as at hut locations found along the Hattiesburg-Jackson route that have a fiber repeater site co-located next to the L-Carrier hut. The auxiliary repeater huts also appear to be of similar construction type along each route segment from New Orleans-Hattiesburg-Jackson-Memphis, at least the ones I have located so far... It is proving much more difficult to find the repeater sites the farther north on the route I have "traveled," particularly along the Jackson-Memphis route.
                    > > >
                    > > > I have been searching the Alcatel/Lucent BSTJ website for journal entries concerning the L1 carrier system to help understand the system design as it relates to the repeater facilities. There appears to be two different types of huts deployed along these routes in-line with the main stations. Most references to L1 carrier I have found have been in the L3/L4/L5 carrier system descriptions, but nothing devoted entirely to the L1 carrier.
                    > >
                    > > Not having a better understanding of the carrier "make up" is a little frustrating, i.e. the use and distance between regulating and any other non-basic reapters...
                    > >
                    > > Numerous miscellaneous updates including Hattiesburg and a guess at Collins:
                    > > http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1367198641-01857-70.16.72.20.html
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > /cpe
                    > >
                    >
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