Re: Warrenton Training Center Transmissions
- --- In coldwarcomms@y..., albertjlafrance@c... wrote:
> Good questions! I don't have conclusive answers, but here's what Iknow (or
> think I know).increased or
> In a message dated 10/30/2001 9:59:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ozob99@y... writes:
> > Anyone know,via monitoring or otherwise,if there has been
> > different type of comms out of the WTC transmitter sites since9-11?
> Recent postings on the Spooks list (devoted to "numbers station"
> have indicated that the transmissions attributed to the Warrentonfacility
> were actually on the decrease, or even ended, well before theattacks. I
> say "attributed to" because it's my understanding that conclusive HFimmediately
> direction-finding is surprisingly difficult even when one is
> adjacent to the transmitter site.OK, thanks;they may be using satellite now for primary comms.
> For those who aren't familiar with the Warrenton Training Center, it
> of four separate installations in the vicinity of Warrenton, VA.Station A
> is a wooded, campus-like site with scattered low-rise buildings,located near
> downtown Warrenton. It appears to be shut down.and
> Station B, probably the largest in terms of building square footage
> number of buildings, is atop a small mountain outside Warrenton. Itfor the
> reportedly is used for CIA and State Dept. technology training, and
> development and manufacture of surveillance devices. Little can beseen from
> the public road (Rt. 690, Bear Wallow Rd.). There is a tall guyedradio
> tower, which has/had microwave links to Stations C and/or D.Adjacent to
> Station B is a facility called "Brushwood", which I think is asecure
> conference center.field with
> Station C is located near Remington. It consists of a large, open
> a huge variety of HF antennas, and one or more small buildings.This is
> reputedly the origin of some of the mysterious "number"transmissions. I
> haven't been there in a couple of years, but at the time of my lastvisit
> Station C appeared to be unmanned, with the gate protected by a CCTVcamera.
>a lot of
> Station D is near Brandy Station. Like C, it is an open field with
> HF antennas. It has a larger building than C, and a couple of"golf-ball"
> radomes for satcom dishes. Various procurements issued by the StateDept.'s
> Diplomatic Telecommunications Service identify Station D as the U.S.terminal
> for overseas leased circuits.network
> The Warrenton sites are interconnected by a dedicated fiber-optic
> provided by Lightwave Spectrum, Inc., which seems to be a popularcarrier for
> the intelligence community. Another LSI cable connects station Dwith a
> satellite earth station located in a wooded area at the north end ofthe
> Quantico USMC base. The earth station used to belong to Overseaspatrols had
> Telecommunications, Inc.; now I think it's Esatel.
> > Increased physical security at the sites?
> I don't have any recent reports, but as of a year or two ago,
> begun on the public roads surrounding Stations C and D. I assumethose are
> still taking place. Also, I heard that signs had been posted aroundC and D
> prohibiting photography of these "tourist attractions".sense for
> > Is the VOA still, or back in, the intel transmitting business?
> That's something I wasn't aware of at all, though it makes a lot of
> them to be doing it.Somewhere I read that CIA and/or State Dept finally admitted that the
Greenville,NC location at least had been used in the past for
intel/diplomatic traffic.I wonder if it was on seperate frequencies or
subcarrier on the VOA channels?...or perhaps code words/messages in
the VOA traffic?