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  • John Mannox
    I m guessing the Hilliard L5 station had an underground? ... From: Paul Zawada Subject: Re: [coldwarcomms] Re: More on Ohio trip To:
    Message 1 of 43 , Jan 31, 2009
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      I'm guessing the Hilliard L5 station had an underground?

      --- On Sat, 1/31/09, Paul Zawada <EngineerZ@...> wrote:
      From: Paul Zawada <EngineerZ@...>
      Subject: Re: [coldwarcomms] Re: More on Ohio trip
      To: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 7:51 PM

      > --- In coldwarcomms@ yahoogroups. com, "Mike Jacobs" <mwj116@...> wrote:


      >> I have managed to locate the Lillyville, PA and Xenia, OH sites

      >> using the American Tower list and Terraserver, and will be

      >> photographing some of them. I am also going to try to get pics of

      >> some of the original microwave sites using the square concrete

      >> buildings that run along I-80 on the way back.

      One of the three concrete towers not built on the original

      transcontinental route is right next to I-70 just west of US-68 near

      Springfield. http://tinyurl. com/ao3yuw

      Another is near Catawba, which is a little off the beaten path of I-70

      about halfway between Springfield and Columbus. The Catawba concrete

      tower was the one that had a 400-ft guyed tower installed next to it.

      Easiest way to get there would be to take OH-56 north from I-70:

      http://tinyurl. com/cuhcsy

      The third concrete tower is in the White Oak section of Cincinnati, at

      the corner of Jessup and Cheviot Roads. http://tinyurl. com/cvsk72

      >> I'm also looking for Hilliard.

      The old Hilliard L5 power feed station is on Hayden Run Rd, just west

      of Avery.

      Aerial photo: http://tinyurl. com/bvos7v [Bird's eve is available as well]

      Take Hilliard Rome Rd north from I-70 and follow it to the north edge

      of town. It will become Main St and later Avery as the road turns

      left at the end of Old Hilliard.

      It's amazing how much development there is around the site.

      Incidentally, for a while the owner listed was the president of Cord

      Camera, a local camera and photo finishing chain. The owner is now

      listed as "6032 Hayden Run Rd LLC," and the address listed still

      matches the Cord Camera headquarters. I have no idea what they do

      with it, but it's listed as a Commercial Warehouse with the Franklin

      County Auditor, though it is now surrounded by residential

      development. Go to the Franklin County Auditors web site at

      http://franklincoun tyoh.metacama. com/do/searchByP arcelId and search

      for parcel ID 272-000336-00. (Sorry, I couldn't figure out a way to

      link to the record directly.)

      Looks like the facility was in service until about 1987 when its

      assessed value peaked at about $725,000. Steve Cordle bought it from

      AT&T in 1995 for $150,000.


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    • Craig Scott
      Yeah,  Whistler    modeled after Joe Engrassia....one of the original Phone Phreaks ...and blind ________________________________ From: Charles Fargis
      Message 43 of 43 , Feb 5, 2009
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        Yeah,  "Whistler"   modeled after Joe Engrassia....one of the original "Phone Phreaks"...and blind

        From: Charles Fargis <lackey91@...>
        To: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:33:39 PM
        Subject: RE: [coldwarcomms] Re: any insights? no pun intended

        Loved the blind guy who counted heartbeats in the tunnel.
        Akroyd wasnt bad either.
        I remarked to my wife when we saw "War Games" how most of the people in the
        didnt know there was a building on springs across the street in a big hole
        in the ground.
        Still operational today unlike Garden City which is now condos and such.
        Sniff Sniff

        -----Original Message-----
        From: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf Of Craig Scott
        Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:47 PM
        To: coldwarcomms@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [coldwarcomms] Re: any insights? no pun intended

        Great movie w/ Bob Redford: SNEAKERS.....moral of the story:  Too Many

        From: kemartinatsnetnet <kemartin@snet. <mailto:kemartin%40snet.net> net>
        To: coldwarcomms@ <mailto:coldwarcomms%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:19:43 PM
        Subject: [coldwarcomms] Re: any insights? no pun intended

        Thank you. Very well put.

        One exception to your comment "In a democratic society".

        This is actually a "republic".

        And one statement. Some things are still better not said.


        --- In coldwarcomms@ <mailto:coldwarcomms%40yahoogroups.com>
        yahoogroups.com, John Young <jya@...> wrote:
        > No question that those with access to classified information
        > are well-trained to not release it. Still, keeping secrets is hard
        > to do when agencies who manage the secrets fairly regularly
        > leak information which helps protect their budgets and careers.
        > How else would the public know what their tax money is used
        > for if now and then there were no dramatic disclosures of how
        > beneficial it is to carefuly manage leaks of secrets and to be
        > sure punish those who are not authorized to stage manage
        > leaks.
        > In a democratic society the conflict between secret keepers
        > and the public will forever be a tussle of mutual suspicion.
        > Whistleblowers serve an important role in this tussle, but
        > more important are the skeptics of secrecy, from the President
        > down to the most ill-informed citizen, all of who are regularly
        > betrayed by those they are induced to trust -- blindly.
        > Anyone who has served in a secretkeeping organization-- mil
        > com, edu, church -- knows well the practice, call it preaching,
        > of revealing what is known to those not authorized to know it,
        > the bragging of what one knows but cannot tell -- though always
        > exaggerated, the hectoring of those with loose lips -- and looser
        > morals, the warnings of treason and threat to the nation,
        > company, family, church, the rigamarole orchestrated as if a
        > buffoonish opera, which insiders are ever reminded, pays quite
        > well to keep outsiders out of the loop.
        > National security is the biggest racket ever, some say it has
        > become a diabolic church of black magic. Stupendously
        > expensive and wasteful of the world's hard-earned capital.
        > Telling the truth about how deeply entrenched it is within
        > democratic nations would indeed be treasonous to it
        > beneficiaries.
        > Best to prate about the virtues of self-censorhip, of patriotism,
        > of holding tongues. Jesus weeps at what is done in the name
        > of security and salvation.
        > Saith a disbeliever.


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