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  • wh_keene
    Can anyone tell me if Francis P. Blair and Frank (also P.?) Blair were related? During the war, Francis was (I think) a congressman from Missouri and would
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      Can anyone tell me if Francis P. Blair and Frank (also P.?) Blair
      were related? During the war, Francis was (I think) a congressman
      from Missouri and would later be Democratic Vice Presidential. I'm
      pretty sure he was related to Montgomery Blair, Lincoln's
      postmaster. Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee,
      commanding a division under Sherman during the Vicksburg campaign and
      after, and I think he was also from Missouri.
    • jaaah@tbcnet.com
      They were one in the same. Francis Preston Blair, Jr. ... Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com
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        They were one in the same. Francis Preston Blair, Jr.


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        > were related?   During the war, Francis was (I think) a congressman <BR>
        > from Missouri and would later be Democratic Vice Presidential.  I'm <BR>
        > pretty sure he was related to Montgomery Blair, Lincoln's <BR>
        > postmaster.  Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee, <BR>
        > commanding a division under Sherman during the Vicksburg campaign and <BR>
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      • wh_keene
        Thank you. The differing use of Frank and Francis had me confused, thinking there were 2 different people. ... Blair family ... ... congressman ...
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          Thank you. The differing use of Frank and Francis had me confused,
          thinking there were 2 different people.


          --- In civilwarwest@y..., jaaah@t... wrote:
          > They were one in the same. Francis Preston Blair, Jr.
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          congressman <BR>
          > > from Missouri and would later be Democratic Vice
          Presidential.  I'm <BR>
          > > pretty sure he was related to Montgomery Blair, Lincoln's <BR>
          > > postmaster.  Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee,
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        • Aurelie1999@aol.com
          The Blairs were an influential family who are credited with keeping Missouri in the Union. Francis P. Blair, Sr. was a founder of the Republican party and
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            The Blairs were an influential family who are credited with keeping Missouri
            in the Union. Francis P. Blair, Sr. was a founder of the Republican party
            and with his two sons Montgomery and Francis (Frank) P. Blair, Jr., the Blair
            triumvirate wielded incredible power in Lincoln's cabinet. Montgomery was
            counsel for Dred Scott in front of the Supreme Court and became Post Master
            General. Frank Jr. was a congressmen until 1862 when he was appointed
            Maj.Gen. of Volunteers and served in the Vicksburg, Chattanooga and Atlanta
            campaigns. All three Blairs eventually returned to the Democratic party
            because of disagreement with policies of the Radical Republicans.
            Connie Bone
          • Michael Mason
            Addison old sport,can you tell us a little of Old man Blair Frank and Montgomerys father,I know he had some pull one way or another. The Baron On :,
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              Addison old sport,can you tell us a little of Old man Blair
              Frank and Montgomerys father,I know he had some pull one way or another. The Baron



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              They were one in the same. Francis Preston Blair, Jr.<BR>
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              > were related?   During the war, Francis was (I think) a congressman <BR><BR>
              > from Missouri and would later be Democratic Vice Presidential.  I'm <BR><BR>
              > pretty sure he was related to Montgomery Blair, Lincoln's <BR><BR>
              > postmaster.  Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee, <BR><BR>
              > commanding a division under Sherman during the Vicksburg campaign and <BR><BR>
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            • L. A. Chambliss
              Dang it...Connie is right and I was wrong in my previous post. I ALWAYS put Montgomery in the wrong generation. He was the brother of Frank Jr., not Sr.
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                Dang it...Connie is right and I was wrong in my previous post. I ALWAYS put Montgomery in the wrong generation. He was the brother of Frank Jr., not Sr.

                Blushing severely, and resolving to return to lurking...

                Laurie

                Aurelie1999@... wrote:

                 The Blairs were an influential family who are credited with keeping Missouri
                in the Union.    Francis P. Blair, Sr. was a founder of the Republican party
                and with his two sons Montgomery and Francis (Frank) P. Blair, Jr., the Blair
                triumvirate wielded incredible power in Lincoln's cabinet.  Montgomery was
                counsel for Dred Scott in front of the Supreme Court and became Post Master
                General.  Frank Jr. was a congressmen until 1862 when he was appointed
                Maj.Gen. of Volunteers and served in the Vicksburg, Chattanooga and Atlanta
                campaigns.  All three Blairs eventually returned to the Democratic party
                because of disagreement with policies of the Radical Republicans.
                Connie Bone

              • Aurelie1999@aol.com
                In a message dated 1/29/02 3:14:06 PM, richthofen@buckeyeinet.com writes:
                Message 7 of 16 , Jan 29, 2002
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                  In a message dated 1/29/02 3:14:06 PM, richthofen@... writes:

                  << ddison old sport,can you tell us a little of Old man Blair
                  Frank and Montgomerys father,I know he had some pull one way or another. The
                  Baron >>

                  Frank Blair Sr. Francis Blair was born in Virginia in 1791. As an adult he
                  assumed the old American custom of moving westward to Kentucky to make his
                  fortune. He owned the Washington Globe which he began in 1830 and intially
                  supported Henry Clay. He then moved solidly into the Jackson camp. In 1845
                  he sold his interest in the paper and moved to Missouri. He became a leader
                  and principal organizer of the Republican Party, supporting Lincoln's
                  candidacy. After the CW he opposed the radical reconstructions and returned
                  to the Democratic party. He died in 1876.
                  Encyclopedia of the CW
                • jaaah@tbcnet.com
                  OK, Baron. Francis Preston Blair, Sr. was born in Abingdon, Virginia on April 12th, 1791. His family quickly moved through Pound Gap and settled in Kentucky,
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                    OK, Baron. Francis Preston Blair, Sr. was born in Abingdon, Virginia on April 12th, 1791. His family quickly moved through Pound Gap and settled in Kentucky, in the Big Sandy area. He was a slave owner, as were his sons for some time until they went north. He was no politician, although he was the father of both Montgomery and Frank Jr. From about 1830 to 1854 he was the editor of a powerful Democratic newspaper, Washington Globe, and thus was a very influential fellow in the political world. One of his best friends and admirers, in fact, was none other than Andrew Jackson. When the Nullification Crisis of 1832 came about, he was in opposition of state's rights, and combated John Calhoun, writing now famous editorials on the Constitution's sacredness. In 1854, he was angered by the Democratic's party's stance in the Kansas-Nebraska Act, and abandoned the party (and his paper) for the Republicans. During the 1860 convention he gained the trust of Lincoln, and through out some o!
                    f his suggestions on who to pick for cabinet members (one of those he suggested, by the way, was his eldest kid Monty!). Blair seems to have followed Lincoln around from then on, giving advice on everything, even attempting to dissuade Lincoln from making McClellan General-in-Chief. In December, 1864, the pacifistic Blair, Sr. had an unofficial meeting with Jeff Davis. Blair suggested a truce, and pointed out the fact that Maximillian's small army in Mexico might be a nice target for the combined forces of Union and Confederacy, so why not enforce manifest destiny together, eh? The gist of the discussion was that they might as well make peace as two nations, and go on to take over the rest of North America, which was to be equally shared. The result was 1865's Hampton Roads Peace Conference, which ultimately led to nothing. When the war ended, Blair, sickened by radical Republicans, went back to the Democrats, and died a rich Democrat in Silver Springs, Maryland on October 18t!
                    h, 1876.


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                  • FLYNSWEDE@AOL.COM
                    In a message dated 1/29/02 1:40:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, wh_keene@yahoo.com writes:
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                      In a message dated 1/29/02 1:40:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                      wh_keene@... writes:

                      << Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee,
                      commanding a division under Sherman during the Vicksburg campaign and
                      after, and I think he was also from Missouri. >>

                      Tsk tsk tsk Mr. Keene, Neither Blair or Sherman ever commanded a division
                      in the Confederate Army. Sherman did command the 15th Corps of the Army of
                      the Tennessee during the Vicksburg campaign. <g> LOL


                      Name BLAIR, Francis Preston Jr
                      Born February 19 1821, Lexington KY
                      Died July 9 1875, St Louis MO
                      Pre-War Profession Lawyer, territorial attorney general, US congressman.
                      War Service April 1861 Col. of 1st Missouri, assisted Lyon in saving the St
                      Louis arsenal for the Union, recruited 7 regiments, August 1862 appointed
                      Brig. Gen. of Volunteers, November 1862 Promoted Maj. Gen. of Volunteers,
                      commanded a division in the Yazoo expedition, Chickasaw Bluffs, commanded 2nd
                      Divn/XV Corps in Vicksburg campaign, commanded XV Corps at Chattanooga,
                      commanded XVII Corps in Atlanta campaign, March to the Sea, Carolinas
                      campaign.
                      Post War Career Planter, politician, US senator
                      Notes Rated highly as a general by Grant and Sherman.
                      Further reading
                      Croly, David G Seymour and Blair : their lives and services with an appendix
                      containing a history of reconstruction New York, Richardson, 1868





                      The Devil's own advocate, Wayne
                    • wh_keene
                      Its a good thing I have thicker skin then some. I apologize for leaving out the article the in naming the army in which Mr. Blair Jr served. Thank you all
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                        Its a good thing I have thicker skin then some. I apologize for
                        leaving out the article 'the' in naming the army in which Mr. Blair
                        Jr served.

                        Thank you all for responding, I fell wealthier in knowledge as a
                        result.

                        --- In civilwarwest@y..., FLYNSWEDE@A... wrote:
                        > In a message dated 1/29/02 1:40:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                        > wh_keene@y... writes:
                        >
                        > << Frank was an officer in the Army of Tennessee,
                        > commanding a division under Sherman during the Vicksburg campaign
                        and
                        > after, and I think he was also from Missouri. >>
                        >
                        > Tsk tsk tsk Mr. Keene, Neither Blair or Sherman ever commanded a
                        division
                        > in the Confederate Army. Sherman did command the 15th Corps of the
                        Army of
                        > the Tennessee during the Vicksburg campaign. <g> LOL
                        >
                        >
                        > Name BLAIR, Francis Preston Jr
                        > Born February 19 1821, Lexington KY
                        > Died July 9 1875, St Louis MO
                        > Pre-War Profession Lawyer, territorial attorney general, US
                        congressman.
                        > War Service April 1861 Col. of 1st Missouri, assisted Lyon in
                        saving the St
                        > Louis arsenal for the Union, recruited 7 regiments, August 1862
                        appointed
                        > Brig. Gen. of Volunteers, November 1862 Promoted Maj. Gen. of
                        Volunteers,
                        > commanded a division in the Yazoo expedition, Chickasaw Bluffs,
                        commanded 2nd
                        > Divn/XV Corps in Vicksburg campaign, commanded XV Corps at
                        Chattanooga,
                        > commanded XVII Corps in Atlanta campaign, March to the Sea,
                        Carolinas
                        > campaign.
                        > Post War Career Planter, politician, US senator
                        > Notes Rated highly as a general by Grant and Sherman.
                        > Further reading
                        > Croly, David G Seymour and Blair : their lives and services with an
                        appendix
                        > containing a history of reconstruction New York, Richardson, 1868
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > The Devil's own advocate, Wayne
                      • basecat1@aol.com
                        Just to add my 2 cents on the Blairs, The Famous Blair House up the street from the White House was owned by the family. The Elder Blair always wished that he
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                          Just to add my 2 cents on the Blairs, The Famous Blair House up the street from the White House was owned by the family.  The Elder Blair always wished that he or one of his sons became President, but alas, this was as close to the White House as they ever got.  :)

                          Regards from the Garden State,

                          Steve.
                        • Aurelie1999@aol.com
                          A couple of notes on Frank P. Blair Jr. While pro-Confederate sympathy was in the minority in Missouri in 1861, the governor and the legislature were
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                            A couple of notes on Frank P. Blair Jr.

                            While pro-Confederate sympathy was in the minority in Missouri in 1861, the
                            governor and the legislature were secessionists and ready to bolt. Fearing
                            war and a Confederate, MO, Frank Blair Jr. formed Union clubs which brought
                            together both Democrats and Republicans. His slogan was simple, "Let us have
                            a country first and then we can talk about parties." He organized the Wide
                            Awakes and then directed without authority the capture of the St. Louis
                            arsenal with Nathaniel Banks. Blair's machinations didn't set well with Sen.
                            John Sherman who complained about this unnatural and grass roots alliance,
                            but Lincoln was grateful to Blair and for a period in 1862 the Republican
                            Party became known as the National Union Party.

                            Frank Jr. graduated from Princeton and attended the Transylvania law school.
                            Elected as a congressman from MO in 1856, he joined the army in 1862.
                            Physically he was described as all "western, a wiry, well-built" 5'11 and 175
                            llbs. His carriage was tall and straight. He wore his hair long and had a
                            drooping red mustache with "steely" gray eyes that snapped and mirrored his
                            emotion exactly. He loved the booze, but could drink like a man and seldom
                            showed the effects. With a wild temper that often flew with cuss words often
                            followed by sincere apologies. His beautiful and intelligent sister despaired
                            of him when he called men "traitors, maniacs or nincompoops," in a rage.
                            "Our only real trouble," Elizabeth confessed, "is Frank will give vent to
                            some of his wrath which will only hurt himself & help his foes." Often she
                            lamented in letters to the family, "I confess to some nervousness about the
                            outrageous insult F gave his colleague. . . bad temper is so very
                            unprofitable, the poorest of counsellors."

                            Fortunately, Frank Blair Jr. proved that some political generals were
                            competent. He raised seven regiments from his state. In the Yazoo
                            expedition he commanded a brigade and was later a division commander of XV
                            Corps. At Chattanooga he commanded the corps. He led the XVII Corps in the
                            Atlanta campaign and subsequent operations of Sherman. Unfortunately, he
                            spent his private fortune to support the Union and was broke at the end of
                            the war.

                            Lincoln believed that the Blairs had "to an unusual degree the spirit of the
                            clan. Their family is a close corporation. Frank is the hope and pride."
                            Fascinating Family. Connie Boone
                            Sources: Reelecting Lincoln by Waugh, Lincoln by Donald, Boatner's
                            Dictionary, and Washington in Lincoln's Time by Noah Brooks.
                          • FLYNSWEDE@AOL.COM
                            In a message dated 1/29/02 8:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, basecat1@aol.com writes:
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                              In a message dated 1/29/02 8:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, basecat1@...
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                              << Just to add my 2 cents on the Blairs, The Famous Blair House up the street
                              from the White House was owned by the family. The Elder Blair always wished
                              that he or one of his sons became President, but alas, this was as close to
                              the White House as they ever got. :)

                              Regards from the Garden State,
                              >>
                              And Steve, that is where Harry Truman lived when they were remodeling the
                              White House and where visiting dignataries stay when they come and visit the
                              President.

                              Wayne who remembers seeing Truman on his morning walks in LaFayette Park
                            • carlw4514
                              now how do you like that?! I had thought the Blair residence in the area was Blair Mansion ( now being used as a murder mystery dinner thing - eeeewwwwwwwww )
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                                now how do you like that?! I had thought the Blair residence in the
                                area was Blair Mansion ( now being used as a murder mystery dinner
                                thing - eeeewwwwwwwww ) in Silver Spring, MD, on the DC line, see
                                http://www.takoma.com/bak/archives/1998/199807ftstevens.html
                                I knew of Blair House - doesnt the president elect stay there? - but
                                did not know this was the same Blair family.
                                Carl
                                --- In civilwarwest@y..., FLYNSWEDE@A... wrote:
                                > In a message dated 1/29/02 8:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                                basecat1@a...
                                > writes:
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                                > << Just to add my 2 cents on the Blairs, The Famous Blair House up
                                the street
                                > from the White House was owned by the family. The Elder Blair
                                always wished
                                > that he or one of his sons became President, but alas, this was as
                                close to
                                > the White House as they ever got. :)
                                >
                                > Regards from the Garden State,
                                > >>
                                > And Steve, that is where Harry Truman lived when they were
                                remodeling the
                                > White House and where visiting dignataries stay when they come and
                                visit the
                                > President.
                                >
                                > Wayne who remembers seeing Truman on his morning walks in
                                LaFayette Park
                              • FLYNSWEDE@AOL.COM
                                In a message dated 1/30/02 2:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, carlw4514@yahoo.com writes:
                                Message 15 of 16 , Jan 30, 2002
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                                  In a message dated 1/30/02 2:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                                  carlw4514@... writes:

                                  << I knew of Blair House - doesnt the president elect stay there? - but
                                  did not know this was the same Blair family >>

                                  Shore is de same
                                • Bob Huddleston
                                  The Blair family were something like the Kennedy s today --covering several generations and exercising tremendous influence over American politics. Francis
                                  Message 16 of 16 , Jan 31, 2002
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                                    The Blair family were something like the Kennedy's today --covering
                                    several generations and exercising tremendous influence over American
                                    politics.

                                    Francis Blair Senior, "Preston Blair," was the family patriarch. He had
                                    been a charter member of Old Hickory's "Kitchen Cabinet" and continued
                                    to be a frequent advisor to Democratic administrations. He also was an
                                    influential newspaper man.

                                    Like most of the Jacksonians, Preston Blair was an unconditional
                                    Unionist in 1861.

                                    As a result, the Montgomery's home in Silver Springs, Maryland, was
                                    burned by Jubal Early in 1864.

                                    Preston's children included Francis Junior, and Montgomery, who have
                                    been covered here. There was also Elizabeth (1818-1906) who married
                                    "Lincoln's Lee," US Navy officer Samuel Phillips Lee (1812-1897). Lee
                                    was the grandson of "Signer" Richard Henry Lee and a third cousin, or
                                    some such, of Robert E. Preston Blair strongly opposed his daughter's
                                    marriage to an impecunious junior navy officer (all of the Lee's of that
                                    generation seem to have been broke!) but later not only reconciled
                                    became very close to his son-in-law.

                                    In the 1861, CDR Lee was CO of the USS Vandalia, enroute to the East
                                    Indies. While refitting at Cape Town, he heard about the secession of
                                    South Carolina, disobeyed orders, and brought the Vandalia home,
                                    arriving on May 15. Between his initiative in returning to the United
                                    States, as his family influence, Lee was on the fast track! He was CO of
                                    the gunboat Oneida during the attack on New Orleans and Farragut's
                                    passing of Vicksburg. He was then appointed acting rear admiral and
                                    given command of the North Atlantic Squadron off Virginia and North
                                    Carolina, and later the Mississippi River Squadron, supporting Thomas
                                    against Hood (see: it *is* on topic!). Lee retired in 1872 as rear
                                    admiral and is buried in Arlington.

                                    Many of the letters Lizzie wrote to Phil have been published as Laas,
                                    _Wartime Washington: The CW Letters of Elizabeth Blair Lee (Urbana,
                                    1991) and they are a fascinating assortment of gossip and insider
                                    information on everyone of importance.

                                    Although Elizabeth had a great deal of empathy and compassion for most
                                    of the Confederates, she left a very poor impression of her kissing
                                    cousin, Robert Lee: "I feel no exulted respect for a man who takes part
                                    in a movement in which he can see nothing but 'anarchy and ruin in
                                    secession'
                                    & yet that very utterance scare passed Robt Lees lips to my Father when
                                    he starts off with delegates to the Richmond convention -- to treat with
                                    Traitors -- No vain woman in my opinion was ever more easily lured from
                                    honor & duty by flattering than was this weak man by the overtures of
                                    wily politicians."

                                    The multi-generational aspect of the Blair family is demonstrated by
                                    Preston's father in law, the Revolutionary hero, Nathanial Gist and
                                    Elizabeth and Samuel's son, Blair Lee (1857-1944), who became the first
                                    popularly elected US Senator from Maryland.

                                    Preston purchased the house at 1655 Pennsylvania in 1845 and used it as
                                    a in-town residence, to go along with the Silver Springs estate. In
                                    1857, he bought the house next door and gave it to Samuel and Elizabeth.
                                    It was in the parlor of 1655 that Preston offered Col. Lee the command
                                    of the US Army in 1861 (referred to in Elizabeth's letter above). The
                                    two houses were combined and remained in the family until 1942 when they
                                    were purchased by the US government and have been used since then as the
                                    official guest house for visiting heads of state -- a use that the Civil
                                    War era Blairs would have said only continues the tradition!

                                    Take care,

                                    Bob

                                    Judy and Bob Huddleston
                                    10643 Sperry Street
                                    Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
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