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  • Kristin Scherrer
    Thats the thing about Franklin. If you go by the book, because it s whoever holds the filed, since the Federal Army did pull out of Franklin at about 1am on
    Message 1 of 8 , Dec 1, 2001

      Thats the thing about Franklin.  If you go by the book, because it's whoever holds the filed, since the Federal Army did pull out of Franklin at about 1am on Dec 1st,  the AOT won.  But the Confederate casualty's were about 2/3 more.  Confederates being just over 6000, and Federals being just over 2000.

      Kristin

        LWhite64@... wrote:

      Not to get into a game of numbers, but I have always thought that the CS losses as a total were low, and if Franklin is anything like Chickamauga, that may be the case.  Grand total of dead for Chickamauga is supposed to be 4,000 and I have compiled over 3,000 for the Confederates alone.  It is likely that we will never know for sure.

      Lee


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    • Michael Mason
      The Federal s were never going to stay,whether they had a battle or not.So by that reasoning,Hood could not possibly lose,no matter how many troops he fed to
      Message 2 of 8 , Dec 1, 2001
        The Federal's were never going to stay,whether they had
        a battle or not.So by that reasoning,Hood could not
        possibly lose,no matter how many troops he fed to
        "The Grim Reaper"! The Baron



        On 1-Dec-01, Kristin Scherrer <wacogaurds64@...> wrote:


        Thats the thing about Franklin. If you go by the book, because it's whoever holds the filed, since the Federal Army did pull out of Franklin at about 1am on Dec 1st, the AOT won. But the Confederate casualty's were about 2/3 more. Confederates being just over 6000, and Federals being just over 2000.
        Kristin
        LWhite64@... wrote: Not to get into a game of numbers, but I have always thought that the CS losses as a total were low, and if Franklin is anything like Chickamauga, that may be the case. Grand total of dead for Chickamauga is supposed to be 4,000 and I have compiled over 3,000 for the Confederates alone. It is likely that we will never know for sure.

        Lee
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      • Jim Elliot
        Baron, Thomas wanted Schoefield to hold Hood a Franklin for three days to give Thomas time to get Smiths troops disembarked plus Thomas was worried Forrest
        Message 3 of 8 , Dec 2, 2001
          Baron,
          Thomas wanted Schoefield to hold Hood a Franklin for three days to
          give Thomas time to get Smiths troops disembarked plus Thomas was
          worried Forrest would raid Nashville.

          Right up until the time of the attack no one on the federal side
          thought that Hood woud make a frontal assault. Schoefield had told
          Thomas he could no hold Hood for three days. Hood adied by Forrest
          could ford the Harpeth whenever he chose to and get on Schoefield's
          rear.

          Thomas's desire was that Schoefield hold Hood for three days at
          Franklin.




          --- In civilwarwest@y..., "Michael Mason" <richthofen@b...> wrote:
          > The Federal's were never going to stay,whether they had
          > a battle or not.So by that reasoning,Hood could not
          > possibly lose,no matter how many troops he fed to
          > "The Grim Reaper"! The Baron
          >
          >
          >
          > On 1-Dec-01, Kristin Scherrer <wacogaurds64@y...> wrote:
          >
          >
          > Thats the thing about Franklin. If you go by the book, because
          it's whoever holds the filed, since the Federal Army did pull out of
          Franklin at about 1am on Dec 1st, the AOT won. But the Confederate
          casualty's were about 2/3 more. Confederates being just over 6000,
          and Federals being just over 2000.
          > Kristin
          > LWhite64@a... wrote: Not to get into a game of numbers, but I
          have always thought that the CS losses as a total were low, and if
          Franklin is anything like Chickamauga, that may be the case. Grand
          total of dead for Chickamauga is supposed to be 4,000 and I have
          compiled over 3,000 for the Confederates alone. It is likely that we
          will never know for sure.
          >
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        • Michael Mason
          I stand corrected,so under that situation Hood did win Franklin.Won the battle,lost the heart of a once great Army,went a long way to losing the cause ,the
          Message 4 of 8 , Dec 2, 2001
            I stand corrected,so under that situation Hood did win
            Franklin.Won the battle,lost the heart of a once great
            Army,went a long way to losing "the cause",the war.
            I think Hood would have been better off,losing this battle,but
            in the end,he was going to lose,unless someone feels
            without Franklin,Hood would have had a chance in Nashville.
            The Baron


            On 02-Dec-01, Jim Elliot <jrayelliot@...> wrote:
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            Baron,<BR>
            Thomas wanted Schoefield to hold Hood a Franklin for three days to <BR>
            give Thomas time to get Smiths troops disembarked plus Thomas was <BR>
            worried Forrest would raid Nashville. <BR>
            <BR>
            Right up until the time of the attack no one on the federal side <BR>
            thought that Hood woud make a frontal assault. Schoefield had told <BR>
            Thomas he could no hold Hood for three days. Hood adied by Forrest <BR>
            could ford the Harpeth whenever he chose to and get on Schoefield's <BR>
            rear. <BR>
            <BR>
            Thomas's desire was that Schoefield hold Hood for three days at <BR>
            Franklin.<BR>
            <BR>
            <BR>
            <BR>
            <BR>
            --- In civilwarwest@y..., "Michael Mason" <richthofen@b...> wrote:<BR>
            > The Federal's were never going to stay,whether they� had<BR>
            > a battle or not.So by that reasoning,Hood could not<BR>
            > possibly lose,no matter how many troops he fed to<BR>
            > "The Grim Reaper"!�� The Baron<BR>
            > <BR>
            > <BR>
            > <BR>
            > On 1-Dec-01, Kristin Scherrer <wacogaurds64@y...> wrote:<BR>
            > <BR>
            > <BR>
            >� Thats the thing about Franklin.� If you go by the book, because <BR>
            it's whoever holds the filed, since the Federal Army did pull out of <BR>
            Franklin at about 1am on Dec 1st,� the AOT won.� But the Confederate <BR>
            casualty's were about 2/3 more.� Confederates being just over 6000, <BR>
            and Federals being just over 2000.<BR>
            > Kristin<BR>
            >�� LWhite64@a... wrote: Not to get into a game of numbers, but I <BR>
            have always thought that the CS losses as a total were low, and if <BR>
            Franklin is anything like Chickamauga, that may be the case.� Grand <BR>
            total of dead for Chickamauga is supposed to be 4,000 and I have <BR>
            compiled over 3,000 for the Confederates alone.� It is likely that we <BR>
            will never know for sure. <BR>
            > <BR>
            > Lee <BR>
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