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  • carlw4514@yahoo.com
    Addison, I made an appointment for you with a psychologist who is going to shrink your head down until we find out what this obsession is you have with 300 lb
    Message 1 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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      Addison, I made an appointment for you with a psychologist who is
      going to shrink your head down until we find out what this obsession
      is you have with 300 lb civil war generals! LOL

      --- In civilwarwest@y..., jaaah@t... wrote:
      > By the way, as I was just writing about the Civil War in Indian
      Territory, I was flipping through my old notes on the subject, and
      found my old description of Gen. Albert Pike. It's not much, but I
      thought you all might find it interesting. Pike certainly was a
      fascinating figure.
      > ---------------
      > 'Brig. Gen. Albert Pike. 52. Traveled in black carriage with black
      servant and bodyguard 'Brutus'. Knew Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit.
      Dressed like a Plains Indian, leggings, moccasins, feathers. Weight,
      300 pounds. "Mane of hair and a beard that covered his chest." Born in
      Boston, Massachusetts. Harvard Graduate, Grammar School Principal,
      Trapper, Lawyer, Poet, Writer, Editor, Freemason, Scholar, Indian
      Agent. Historian David Lavender writes: "He moved and spoke with
      Olympian loftiness. He was more than six feet tall and bearded like
      Zeus; his curly locks cascaded to his shoulders." Middle name possibly
      Jerome.'
      > ---------------
      >
      > Addison Hart
      >
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    • jaaah@tbcnet.com
      Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very
      Message 2 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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        Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

        Addison Hart


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      • jaaah@tbcnet.com
        Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very
        Message 3 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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          Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

          Addison Hart


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          • josepharose@yahoo.com
            Addison, I m sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because they managed to stay mounted, were able to ride around in the steep mountains
            Message 5 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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              Addison,

              I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because
              they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the
              steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander
              throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were
              able to get up again."

              How about a little credit for their horses?

              Joseph




              From: jaaah@t...
              Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 3:17 pm
              Subject: RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

              Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally
              doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb
              Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think
              that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback
              in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted,
              and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep
              mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well
              with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as
              well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly
              mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it
              seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell
              down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

              Addison Hart


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            • jaaah@tbcnet.com
              Joseph, What horses? These guys had to ride on bicycles! Well, maybe not. But all of their horses s names are lost to history because they had so many, they
              Message 6 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                Joseph, What horses? These guys had to ride on bicycles! Well, maybe not. But all of their horses's names are lost to history because they had so many, they did of broken backs after every time they were used.

                Addison


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                > I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because <BR>
                > they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the <BR>
                > steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander <BR>
                > throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were <BR>
                > able to get up again."<BR>
                > <BR>
                > How about a little credit for their horses?<BR>
                > <BR>
                > Joseph<BR>
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                > <BR>From:  jaaah@t...<BR>
                > Date:  Wed Aug 1, 2001  3:17 pm<BR>
                > Subject:  RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike<BR>
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                > Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally <BR>
                > doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb <BR>
                > Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think <BR>
                > that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback <BR>
                > in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, <BR>
                > and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep <BR>
                > mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well<BR>
                > with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as <BR>
                > well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly <BR>
                > mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it <BR>
                > seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell <BR>
                > down they were able to get up again! Amazing!<BR>
                > <BR>
                > Addison Hart<BR>
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              • FLYNSWEDE@AOL.COM
                In a message dated 8/1/01 3:53:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jaaah@tbcnet.com writes:
                Message 7 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                  In a message dated 8/1/01 3:53:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jaaah@...
                  writes:

                  << John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout
                  the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy.
                  In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they
                  fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!
                  >>
                  Yeah, but their horses became sway back in the mean time <g>


                  Wayne
                • Tim Harrison
                  Hear! Hear! I agree, Joseph. Their horses certainly deserve a great deal of credit. Regards, Tim Harrison http://www.swcivilwar.com ... From:
                  Message 8 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                    Hear! Hear!
                     
                    I agree, Joseph.  Their horses certainly deserve a great deal of credit.
                     
                    Regards,
                    Tim Harrison
                    http://www.swcivilwar.com
                     
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:09 PM
                    Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

                    Addison,

                    I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because
                    they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the
                    steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander
                    throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were
                    able to get up again."

                    How about a little credit for their horses?

                    Joseph




                    From:  jaaah@t...
                    Date:  Wed Aug 1, 2001  3:17 pm
                    Subject:  RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

                    Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally
                    doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb
                    Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think
                    that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback
                    in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted,
                    and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep
                    mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well
                    with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as
                    well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly
                    mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it
                    seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell
                    down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

                    Addison Hart


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