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A Note on Albert Pike

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  • jaaah@tbcnet.com
    By the way, as I was just writing about the Civil War in Indian Territory, I was flipping through my old notes on the subject, and found my old description of
    Message 1 of 9 , Jul 31, 2001
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      By the way, as I was just writing about the Civil War in Indian Territory, I was flipping through my old notes on the subject, and found my old description of Gen. Albert Pike. It's not much, but I thought you all might find it interesting. Pike certainly was a fascinating figure.
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      'Brig. Gen. Albert Pike. 52. Traveled in black carriage with black servant and bodyguard 'Brutus'. Knew Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit. Dressed like a Plains Indian, leggings, moccasins, feathers. Weight, 300 pounds. "Mane of hair and a beard that covered his chest." Born in Boston, Massachusetts. Harvard Graduate, Grammar School Principal, Trapper, Lawyer, Poet, Writer, Editor, Freemason, Scholar, Indian Agent. Historian David Lavender writes: "He moved and spoke with Olympian loftiness. He was more than six feet tall and bearded like Zeus; his curly locks cascaded to his shoulders." Middle name possibly Jerome.'
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      Addison Hart


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    • carlw4514@yahoo.com
      Addison, I made an appointment for you with a psychologist who is going to shrink your head down until we find out what this obsession is you have with 300 lb
      Message 2 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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        Addison, I made an appointment for you with a psychologist who is
        going to shrink your head down until we find out what this obsession
        is you have with 300 lb civil war generals! LOL

        --- In civilwarwest@y..., jaaah@t... wrote:
        > By the way, as I was just writing about the Civil War in Indian
        Territory, I was flipping through my old notes on the subject, and
        found my old description of Gen. Albert Pike. It's not much, but I
        thought you all might find it interesting. Pike certainly was a
        fascinating figure.
        > ---------------
        > 'Brig. Gen. Albert Pike. 52. Traveled in black carriage with black
        servant and bodyguard 'Brutus'. Knew Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit.
        Dressed like a Plains Indian, leggings, moccasins, feathers. Weight,
        300 pounds. "Mane of hair and a beard that covered his chest." Born in
        Boston, Massachusetts. Harvard Graduate, Grammar School Principal,
        Trapper, Lawyer, Poet, Writer, Editor, Freemason, Scholar, Indian
        Agent. Historian David Lavender writes: "He moved and spoke with
        Olympian loftiness. He was more than six feet tall and bearded like
        Zeus; his curly locks cascaded to his shoulders." Middle name possibly
        Jerome.'
        > ---------------
        >
        > Addison Hart
        >
        >
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      • jaaah@tbcnet.com
        Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very
        Message 3 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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          Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

          Addison Hart


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        • jaaah@tbcnet.com
          Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very
          Message 4 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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            Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

            Addison Hart


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            • josepharose@yahoo.com
              Addison, I m sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because they managed to stay mounted, were able to ride around in the steep mountains
              Message 6 of 9 , Aug 1, 2001
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                Addison,

                I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because
                they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the
                steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander
                throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were
                able to get up again."

                How about a little credit for their horses?

                Joseph




                From: jaaah@t...
                Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 3:17 pm
                Subject: RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

                Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally
                doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb
                Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think
                that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback
                in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted,
                and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep
                mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well
                with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as
                well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly
                mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it
                seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell
                down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

                Addison Hart


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              • jaaah@tbcnet.com
                Joseph, What horses? These guys had to ride on bicycles! Well, maybe not. But all of their horses s names are lost to history because they had so many, they
                Message 7 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                  Joseph, What horses? These guys had to ride on bicycles! Well, maybe not. But all of their horses's names are lost to history because they had so many, they did of broken backs after every time they were used.

                  Addison


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                  > I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because <BR>
                  > they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the <BR>
                  > steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander <BR>
                  > throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were <BR>
                  > able to get up again."<BR>
                  > <BR>
                  > How about a little credit for their horses?<BR>
                  > <BR>
                  > Joseph<BR>
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                  > <BR>From:  jaaah@t...<BR>
                  > Date:  Wed Aug 1, 2001  3:17 pm<BR>
                  > Subject:  RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike<BR>
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                  > Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally <BR>
                  > doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb <BR>
                  > Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think <BR>
                  > that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback <BR>
                  > in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted, <BR>
                  > and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep <BR>
                  > mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well<BR>
                  > with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as <BR>
                  > well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly <BR>
                  > mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it <BR>
                  > seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell <BR>
                  > down they were able to get up again! Amazing!<BR>
                  > <BR>
                  > Addison Hart<BR>
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                • FLYNSWEDE@AOL.COM
                  In a message dated 8/1/01 3:53:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jaaah@tbcnet.com writes:
                  Message 8 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                    In a message dated 8/1/01 3:53:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jaaah@...
                    writes:

                    << John Williams (300 lbs as well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout
                    the whole war in mainly mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy.
                    In fact, it seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they
                    fell down they were able to get up again! Amazing!
                    >>
                    Yeah, but their horses became sway back in the mean time <g>


                    Wayne
                  • Tim Harrison
                    Hear! Hear! I agree, Joseph. Their horses certainly deserve a great deal of credit. Regards, Tim Harrison http://www.swcivilwar.com ... From:
                    Message 9 of 9 , Aug 2, 2001
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                      Hear! Hear!
                       
                      I agree, Joseph.  Their horses certainly deserve a great deal of credit.
                       
                      Regards,
                      Tim Harrison
                      http://www.swcivilwar.com
                       
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:09 PM
                      Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

                      Addison,

                      I'm sorry to have to quibble here, but you commend these guys because
                      they "managed to stay mounted," were "able to ride around in the
                      steep mountains of Big Sandy," "remained a Cavalry Commander
                      throughout the whole war in mainly mountainous regions," and "were
                      able to get up again."

                      How about a little credit for their horses?

                      Joseph




                      From:  jaaah@t...
                      Date:  Wed Aug 1, 2001  3:17 pm
                      Subject:  RE: [civilwarwest] Re: A Note on Albert Pike

                      Well, Unre, thanks for setting up the appointment, but I personally
                      doubt that ol' Sigi or Prof. von Snortz can help me here. 300 lb
                      Generals were very interesting fellows, especially when you think
                      that 1) Gen. Pike personally led a charge at Pea Ridge on horseback
                      in moccasins, feathers, leggings, etc., and managed to stay mounted,
                      and 2) Humphrey Marshall was able to ride around in the steep
                      mountains of Big Sandy when his weight naturally does not mix well
                      with riding around in that area, and 3) John Williams (300 lbs as
                      well) remained a Cavalry Commander throughout the whole war in mainly
                      mountainous regions, and that doesn't seem very easy. In fact, it
                      seems nearly impossible. However, they all did it. And when they fell
                      down they were able to get up again! Amazing!

                      Addison Hart


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