Re: Was Pemberton Wrong, Bad, Incompetent (Vicksburg Campaign)
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ned Baldwin" wrote:
>To whom? Not to Halleck or Lincoln.
> --- In email@example.com, "Tony" wrote:
> > The really great lesson to be learned from Vicksburg is humility. Grant was halfway to Vicksburg when rumors began to arrive that Lincoln was sending an independent commander into Grant's turf with orders to steal half Grant's army and take them down the river for a direct assault. McClellan would have had an aneurism. And a conniption. Maybe even a connipteurism. Grant deferred and sent half his army down the river without complaint.
> He did complain.
> He also made an effort to get the expedition down the riverHe sent the expedition down river early as per Halleck's order. He took over from McClernand because Halleck had authorized him to do so.
> before McClernand could show up and when he learned that
> McClernand had take over from Sherman he made plans to take
> over himself. I dont think the lesson is what you think it is.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Tony" wrote:
> Starting in early October IIRC, Grant asked repeatedly for direction. What am I to do? What is my objective? How should I proceed. Receiving absolutely no direction from Halleck, Grant outlined a plan: consolidate his force against Holly Springs, drive Pemberton south rebuilding the railroad as he went, take Vicksburg from the interior. Still, Halleck remained mute about Grant's objectives, despite the fact that Halleck was aware that McClernand had bent Lincoln's ear towards a riverine campaign.He did receive direction from Halleck; Halleck did not remain Mute.
> So we have Lincoln stabbing Grant in the back, and Halleck feeding him lies.Baseless.
>Would there have been a disaster at Holly Springs without the riverine expedition?
> As far as inventing my own history, go bugger yourself in the earhole.Truth hurts huh.