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  • Andy & Kim Mills
    Margaret May I suggest one book for you to read. It is called, The South Was Right. I must say though that you go into reading that book with an open mind.
    Message 1 of 127 , Jun 2, 2001
      Margaret
       
      May I suggest one book for you to read.  It is called, "The South Was Right."  I must say though that you go into reading that book with an open mind.  It will help quell most of your beliefs.
       
      Thank you
      Andy
      -----Original Message-----

      Wayne,

      I'd suggest you read "Apostles of Disunion" by Charles Dew about the
      secession delegates, the delegates that the states that were already in
      rebellion sent to the states that were considering it in order to offer
      support and/or persuasion as needed.   He  uses the letters and speeches
      that these gentlemen made and there is very little that is talked about
      other than the need to protect the institution of slavery from the
      perceived threat to it and the society that had formed around the Peculiar
      Institution due to the election of  a "Black Republican".        There was
      no war during the period from December through March, in large part,
      because that was the lame duck period of the Buchanan administration
      (Presidents were inaugurated on March 4 until the Constitution was amended
      in the 1930s  to move inauguration day to its current January 20 ).  On the
      one hand, the Confederates sent several commissioners to DC to try to
      negotiate with the Buchanan administration over turning over or accepting
      payment for property already seized in rebel states.   Although Buchanan
      had gone to great lengths to accommodate the South's demands before
      secession began, he refused to either formally receive the commissioners
      (implying recognition) or to turn over federal property like Ft. Sumter.
      While denying the legality of secession, he basically bided his time until
      it became Lincoln's problem.  During the period between the presidential
      election and Lincoln's inauguration, the rebels had created a provisional
      government and Constitution, put together an army and called for troops to
      be raised, seized federal property including the Federal mint and custom
      house in New Orleans, and fired on federal armed forces (including firing
      on the relief ship that Buchanan sent in an unsuccessful attempt to provide
      relief to the US garrison on Ft. Sumter).   The formal hostitilities
      started with a deliberate decision on the part of the Confederate cabinet
      to prevent a relief expedition with food for the starving Ft. Sumter
      garrison of  which the Lincoln administration had formally notified the
      South Carolina governor and assured him that it no soldiers or weapons,
      etc. were involved, only food and other  such non-overtlly military items.
      It seems clear that the decision was, in part, to force wavering slaves
      states into joining the rebellion.

      Had there been no secession, there would have been no war, and the
      protection of  slavery, in the words from that critical period from  those
      who advocated and made the decision to rebel, was why secession occurred.

      Regards,

      Margaret
    • Bob Huddleston
      I would second Carl. Grandpa s knee is a wonderful place to learn to love history but often a terrible place to learn accurate history. I do not recall any
      Message 127 of 127 , Jul 7, 2001
        I would second Carl. Grandpa's knee is a wonderful place to learn to
        love history but often a terrible place to learn accurate history.

        I do not recall any mention of anyone telling Scott how to run a war.
        And he was an experienced general -- I doubt that anyone needed to give
        him ideas about how to run a war.

        There were similar claims for a Marylander named Anna Carroll (? I may
        have the name wrong) who claimed that she gave Lincoln the idea for the
        Tennessee/Cumberland Campaign.

        But some things are so obvious -- John Sherman recalled going to visit
        his brother early in the war and finding Cump and Thomas crawling around
        on the floor on a huge map of the United States, "talking shop" about
        how *they* would defeat the Rebels. As the senator remembered the story,
        his brother and Thomas basically outlined the way the war turned out.

        The secret was not in figuring out the strategy, but in finding the man
        or men who would be able to carry out the plan. It took a while but
        Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan and a few others, Lincoln finally found
        the men who imposed their will on the armies.

        Take care,

        Bob

        Judy and Bob Huddleston
        10643 Sperry Street
        Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
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        Hello addison, please do share that. I'll caution you, tho', that
        family traditions are a bit touchy, you know, everyone in the family
        cherishes them and all; but sometimes they are a bit hard to confirm.
        Carl aka Unre, etc

        --- In civilwarwest@y..., jaaah@t... wrote:
        > Well, if this isn't too late, I want too add something.
        >
        > Family history records that we are related to the Scotts, and that
        my Great Great Grandmother was the one to actually give General Scott
        the idea for the 'Anaconda Plan'. My Grandfather has the full
        details, but from what I remember, she was at a dinner party with
        him, and he was telling her about the plans for the war against the
        Confederacy. She then asked "well why don't you just cut them off
        from everything?" When he asked what she meant, she gave him the
        basic idea for what became the 'Anaconda Plan.' If you want the full
        details, my Grandfather has them all!
        >
        > A. Hart
        >
        > > ** Original Subject: RE: [civilwarwest] The Anaconda Myth
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