Re: The Anaconda Myth
- The idea of Grant as a butcher is definitely overwrought.
He took over the AoP (with apologies to GG Meade) that had moved,
what, 30 miles from Washington to Culpeper in 3 years, suffered about
110,000 casualties and inflicted about 95,000 casualties in the major
In 11 months the war ended with the AoP inflicting 38,000 and
suffering 63,000 casualties.
--- In civilwarwest@y..., CashG79@a... wrote:
> In a message dated Thu, 31 May 2001 3:03:16 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, brooksdsimpson@y... writes:
> In a way, Grant's 1864 plan takes off from the Scott 1861 plan.
> What's really interesting about his initial foray into strategic
planning in January 1864 was his desire to move the war out of
Virginia. I happen to think the plan was workable. I also think
Grant still thought the war would be won in the West. What he wanted
> to do was to take out Lee as a way to nullify expected Union gains.
> Yes, he hoped for more, but if he nullified Lee and let Sherman
loose, that was achieving a great deal.
> I agree with this, and I think the interpretations of Grant as being
a butcher, based on his Overland Campaign, ignore the fact that he had
an overall strategy of continuous pressure and he had coordinated this
strategy among all the federal armies, in the east as well as the
> I believe you, yourself pointed out in your essay in _The Myth of
the Lost Cause and Civil War History_ that Grant was essentially let
down in the east by Sigel and Butler. However, Sherman's advance
achieved what Grant wanted it to achieve.
- I would second Carl. Grandpa's knee is a wonderful place to learn to
love history but often a terrible place to learn accurate history.
I do not recall any mention of anyone telling Scott how to run a war.
And he was an experienced general -- I doubt that anyone needed to give
him ideas about how to run a war.
There were similar claims for a Marylander named Anna Carroll (? I may
have the name wrong) who claimed that she gave Lincoln the idea for the
But some things are so obvious -- John Sherman recalled going to visit
his brother early in the war and finding Cump and Thomas crawling around
on the floor on a huge map of the United States, "talking shop" about
how *they* would defeat the Rebels. As the senator remembered the story,
his brother and Thomas basically outlined the way the war turned out.
The secret was not in figuring out the strategy, but in finding the man
or men who would be able to carry out the plan. It took a while but
Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan and a few others, Lincoln finally found
the men who imposed their will on the armies.
Judy and Bob Huddleston
10643 Sperry Street
Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
Hello addison, please do share that. I'll caution you, tho', that
family traditions are a bit touchy, you know, everyone in the family
cherishes them and all; but sometimes they are a bit hard to confirm.
Carl aka Unre, etc
--- In civilwarwest@y..., jaaah@t... wrote:
> Well, if this isn't too late, I want too add something.
> Family history records that we are related to the Scotts, and that
my Great Great Grandmother was the one to actually give General Scott
the idea for the 'Anaconda Plan'. My Grandfather has the full
details, but from what I remember, she was at a dinner party with
him, and he was telling her about the plans for the war against the
Confederacy. She then asked "well why don't you just cut them off
from everything?" When he asked what she meant, she gave him the
basic idea for what became the 'Anaconda Plan.' If you want the full
details, my Grandfather has them all!
> A. Hart
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