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RE: [civilwarwest] Re: Ha! try to say this isn't a Civil War West topic! [g]

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  • Tom Mix
    BINGO!!! ... From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bruner Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:40 AM To:
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bruner
      Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:40 AM
      To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: Ha! try to say this isn't a Civil War West topic! [g]


      A close reading the rules reveals this sentence:

      Any action that did not involve Lee's Army of Northern Virginia or
      the Peninsula Campaign is open for discussion.

      Bill Bruner

      --- In civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com, "Tom Mix" <tmix@...> wrote:

      > In the past the Carolinas have always been part of the discussion
      as long as
      > it involved Western troops, of which Sherman's were.
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com
      [mailto:civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com] On
      > Behalf Of Carl Williams
      > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:08 AM
      > To: civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com
      > Subject: [civilwarwest] Ha! try to say this isn't a Civil War West
      > [g]
      > I've been brought up short a few times by wandering too far from a
      > 'proper western theater topic,' and really I take notice so as not
      > upset folks here [although the moderators havent been
      complaining] .
      > IMO Charleston is proper, due to Sherman passing through the
      > Now the following is "west" sure enough. Did ASJ drop the ball?
      > http://www.usnews.
      > <http://www.usnews. com/usnews/ news/articles/ 070624/2west. htm>
      > com/usnews/news/ articles/ 070624/2west. htm
      > The Golden Conspiracy
      > With its riches, California came close to joining the South
      > By Andrew Curry
      > Posted 6/24/07
      > Each month, three or four steamships set sail from San Francisco
      > loaded with millions of dollars' worth of gold, wealth that fueled
      > Union's economic engine during the Civil War. Even Gen. Ulysses S.
      > Grant was grateful for California's contribution to the war
      effort. "I
      > do not know what we would do in this great national emergency were
      > not for the gold sent from California," Grant once wrote. But all
      > cash could just as easily have gone to the other side. Though most
      > history books glide over the role the West Coast played in the War
      > Between the States, California came very close to being part of the
      > South, a defection that could easily have altered the outcome of
      > conflict.
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      > Before 1848, California was just the sleepy northern frontier of
      > Mexico. The population consisted of at least 300,000 native Indians
      > and only 700 foreigners, most of whom were American. The discovery
      > gold at Sutter's Mill on Jan. 24, 1848, quickly changed that. As
      > of the discovery trickled outâ€"news could take months to reach
      the East
      > Coast by way of a 14,000-mile sail around South America or
      > stagecoachâ€"prospectors and merchants from around the world
      flocked to
      > the gold fields by boat and covered wagon. In the decade before the
      > Civil War began, more gold came out of those California mines than
      > amount the whole world had produced in the previous 150 years.
      > Competition. To Southern slaveholders, the gold mines sounded like
      > perfect place to bring their system of forced labor. No less an
      > eminence than Jefferson Davisâ€"who would become president of
      > Confederacy a decade laterâ€"argued to make California a
      > territory. "The European races now engaged in working the mines of
      > California sink under the burning heat...to which the African race
      > altogether better adapted," Davis argued in 1850. "The
      > rice, sugar, and cotton is no better adapted to slave labor than
      > digging, washing, and quarrying of the gold mines."
      > But the miners had other ideas. "They don't want to compete with
      > labor, peon labor, or corporate labor," says Leonard Richards,
      > of the recently released book The California Gold Rush and the
      > of the Civil War and a historian at the University of
      > "They just want to be left alone." So at a constitutional
      > in 1849, California politicians declared that the soon-to-be state
      > would not accept slavery. Keeping slavery out of California was
      > the economics of labor competition, not idealism, Richards says. At
      > that very same convention, a proposal to ban even free blacks from
      > entering the state was just narrowly defeated.
      > For the next decade, politicians in both Washington, D.C., and
      > California schemed to make the Golden State part of the South. Many
      > Californians had been born in slave states and were sympathetic to
      > Southern cause. Only 32 percent voted for Abraham Lincoln in 1860.
      > When war broke out in 1861, there was a move to establish
      the "Pacific
      > Republic" with Oregon and join the Confederacy. The situation was
      > tense: Albert Johnston, the general responsible for protecting
      > Californiaâ€"just recently acquired from Mexico and vulnerable
      > from Indian tribesâ€"was a Texan with a deep hatred for
      > But in a move that may have changed history, Johnston surprised the
      > Pacific Republic conspirators. Upholding his officer's oath of
      > loyalty, he refused to join their plan. Instead, he handed over his
      > command and headed to Texas, where he joined the Confederate Army.
      > Johnston was killed at the Battle of Shiloh in 1862. Thousands of
      > Californians followed his example, moved east, picked their side,
      > fought in dozens of battles. But many more stayed homeâ€"and
      kept a
      > close eye on those gold fields.

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