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RE: [civilwarwest] Re: "Atlanta Campaign"

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  • Tom Mix
    No, the bottom line is that Sherman and Grant were right. It was unnecessary for Sherman to chase after Hood. If Hood wanted to impale himself on Thomas s
    Message 1 of 73 , Sep 11, 2007
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      No, the bottom line is that Sherman and Grant were right. It was unnecessary for Sherman to chase after Hood. If Hood wanted to impale himself on Thomas’s sword, he didn’t need Sherman’s help to kill his army.

      Sherman  then took the fight to the Carolina’s changing the dynamics making the deep South a now complete non entity. Hood was getting himself wiped out in Tennessee and Sherman established a new front in the Carolina’s where no major actions had occurred.

      In West Taylor was still bottled up around the Red and the war was now virtually over. At this point every part of the South had felt the war they started and paid dearly.

      It was soon over and that was the real goal and it was achieved.

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hall
      Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:07 PM
      To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: "Atlanta Campaign"

       

      No, bottom line, after Atlanta fell, Sherman first continued to try to defeat the Army of Tennessee, now under Hood, by chasing him back north.  In this Hood almost succeeded in his plan to draw Sherman back out of Georgia, but Sherman gave up after a small fight at Ceder Bluff, Alabama.  By this time Grant knew that to insist on the continued attack would point out Sherman's failure to the public at a time when Lincoln's re-election meant more to the war effort than anything else.  Sherman returned to Atlanta to rest and equip his army and then later made his "push to salt water" something which Sherman had been contemplating since before the campaign began.  As a matter of fact, the first mention of a "push to salt water" was made from the Clisbe Austin House in Tunnel Hill!  Sherman used his "victory" at Atlanta as leverage to get what he wanted from Grant at a time when Sherman was seen as the hero of the Union and Grant was seen by many as a butcher for the huge casualty numbers coming from Virginia.  Sherman had moved farther in just a few months as the entire Army of the Potomac had done in three years, and no one saw any end to the carnage in front of Richmond and Petersburg.  To the northen press and people of the time, Sherman was "the man," to use a modern term, and Grant could really not refuse him.  To do so would have brought the people heavily against him, they were already tired of the carnage of his meatgrinder tactics in Virginia. 

       

      Bottom line:  Sherman failed in his assigned task, but used public opinion to win the election for Lincoln and his new "golden boy" prestige to get what he wanted.

       

      Steve Hall - Commander
      Lt. Col. William Luffman Camp #938
      Sons of Confederate Veterans
      Chatsworth, Georgia

      ----- Original Message -----

      From: keeno2@...

      Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:12 PM

      Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: "Atlanta Campaign"

       

      The old "Sherman didn't accomplish the goal he was ordered to accomplish" gambit? Things change. At the point of crushing Johnston/Hood at Atlanta, Sherman persuaded Grant to let Thomas finish the job as it became apparent that there were other fish to fry. Grant, in effect, cancelled his order when he gave Sherman leave to go ahead and bring the war to the civilian population. Bottom line, Sherman didn't fail. The situation had changed.

       

      ken




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    • ks
      And for those who still might not get it , sometimes we slip into calling people here by the screen names they use in shotgun s Civil War Home chatroom.
      Message 73 of 73 , Sep 14, 2007
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        And for those who still might not "get it", sometimes we slip into calling people here by the screen names they use in shotgun's Civil War Home chatroom.  Dave=americanhistoryguy=amhg=AHG or whatever works at the moment.  :)
         
        Best regards.
         
        Pat
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: hank9174
        Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:42 AM
        Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: The soldier's vote

        --- In civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com, "Carl Williams" <carlw4514@. ..>
        wrote:
        >
        > Hank, don't find "amhg" in the acronym list at
        >
        > http://kb.iu. edu/data/ adkc.html
        >
        > so help me out here!
        >
        >

        lol...

        amhg is to Dave
        as
        unre is to Carl...

        HankC

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