Re: Champion Hill; Hard-tack is cheered
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, keeno2@... wrote:
> I've always figured that Grant made sure he had ammo. That he could
> feed his army off the land.I think you've got that about right. But you've described a less than
> Where we're getting this "shaky" situation haswere ever
> blown by me. It was a risk, but I have yet to read where his guys
> hungry. Or unusually pressed for supplies.From what I can gather, to provide both ammunition and food with any
situation lacking in some manner cannot prevail forever. An abundance
of food was clearly going to run out if 'living off the land' was how
it was to be provided. Perhaps ammunition could have been kept coming in.
In his own words, Grant reveals some problems, emphasis mine. This may
have been the only time in the war that the appearance of hard-tack
"I therefore determined to move independently of Banks, *cut loose
from my base*, destroy the rebel force in rear of Vicksburg, and
invest or capture the city.
Grand Gulf was accordingly given up as a base ... Even Sherman, ...
wrote me from Hankinson's Ferry ; advising me of the impossibility of
supplying our army over a single road... I replied : " I do not
calculate upon the possibility of supplying the army with full rations
from Grand Gulf. ... I do expect is to get up what rations of hard
bread, coffee, and salt we can and make the country " ' furnish the
Every plantation, however, had a run of stone, propelled by mule
power, to grind corn for the owners and their slaves. All these were
kept running while we were stopping day and night... But the majority
of the command was destined to go without bread until a *new base* was
established on the *Yazoo*, above Vicksburg...
[Upon securing the Yazoo base]... [m]ost of the army had now been for
three weeks with only five days' rations issued by the commissary.
They had an abundance of food, however, but began to feel the want of
bread. ... A soldier, recognizing me, said in rather a low voice, but
yet so that I heard him, `` Hard-tack." In a moment the cry was taken
up all along the line, "Hard-tack! ! Hard-tack!" !" I told the men
nearest to me that we had been engaged ever since the arrival of the
troops in building a road over which to supply them with everything
they needed. The cry was instantly changed to cheers...
- You mention how Sherman and Grant worked together to prevent the movement of troops between theaters, and many have spoken of how great this plan was, but in reality it did not matter that much. Think about it, the ONLY major battle of the entire war which was influenced by the movement of troops from one major army to another was Chickamauga! Even then most of Longstreets men were late to the party!With only one viable route for the transportation of troops between the two armies, and it was almost worn out by this time, I don't see how any major movement of troops between the two armies was possible, so the "Cooperation" between Grant and Sherman really did not effect the outcome of the conflict.Steve Hall - Commander
Lt. Col. William Luffman Camp #938
Sons of Confederate Veterans
Chatsworth, Georgia----- Original Message -----From: David WallCc: bonnikorn@...Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:41 PMSubject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: Champion Hill;
I am not sure what you mean by Cohesion on the east side of the river.
Grant's army certainly acted in concert, except for McClernand at Champion
Hill. But even he did O.K.
Now by east side of the river, you mean the entire area from the Mississippi
to the East Coast, I just don't know enough to comment.
But Grant's movement down the Louisiana border to Bruinsberg to Jackson to
Vicksburg was like a "Ballet for Three Division's". Wow, I've got to use
that phrase again!
Same goes for Sherman on his way from Chattanoga to Atlanta. Except he
conducted a "Ballet for Three Army's". Grant and Sherman actually
co-ordinated their activities so that the Confederates could not transfer
troops from one theater to the other.
edkiniry, who took part in those ballets. No...he did not wear tights. He
shod horses and shot
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>Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: Champion Hill;
>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:34:02 EDT
>Nothing particularly unusual about the lack of cohesion Trans-Mississippi.
>It was barely evident on the east side of the river. In both armies.
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