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  • Tom Gilbert
    In the reply that I just sent, I forgot to mention that, in my opinion, anything associated with Peter Cozzens is bound to be good .. he wrote a really great
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      In the reply that I just sent,  I forgot to mention that, in my opinion, anything associated with Peter Cozzens is bound to be good .. he wrote a really great trilogy on the Western Theatre battles of Stones River, Chickamauga, and Chattanooga .. tom g


      Steve <tristan4th@...> wrote:
      Greetings...
      Hope all are doing well & having a good week.
      I may have asked this before, but don't seem to find it in past
      messages.. But are there O.R.s for say, American Indian Wars, Mormon
      War, Spanish American War, ect.. as we have for American Civil War..???
      Hope not to lame of a question... I just need to do some further
      research, and was curious...
      Thanks for time & consideration. ..
      Capt. McCracken... ..




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    • Steve Saultz
      Hi Tom... Thankyou very much! I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the Apache Wars are of my main interests! Thanks again... Capt.
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                   Hi Tom...
                        Thankyou very much!  I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the "Apache Wars" are of my main interests!
                  Thanks again...
                    Capt. McCracken.........

        Tom Gilbert <tommygeebassman@...> wrote:
        Capt. McCracken, Sir!
        Your question made me curious, too, so I looked around a little .. I found the following review on the Western History Quarterly Review site.  Might be worth looking into!
        ..Tom Gilbert
         
        Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars, 1865—1890. Volume One: The Struggle for Apacheria. Edited by Peter Cozzens. (Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 2001. xxxiv + 683 pp. Illustrations, maps, notes, index. $49.95.)
             Historians researching the Indian Wars are not as fortunate as Civil War specialists are in that the latter are blessed with a wide range of available published source compilations such as the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion (Washington, DC, 1880—1901) and Battles and Leaders (New York, 1887—1888). Thanks to Peter Cozzens, research into the Apache Wars, and eventually other Native-American conflicts, has been made a bit easier. Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is the first of a projected five-volume compilation of first-person accounts amassed in the fashion of Battles and Leaders.1
             While its Civil War protégé consists of articles reprinted from one source, Century Magazine, this volume of Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is an assembled collection of rarely seen narratives drawn from a wide variety of publications. The editor has gathered together letters, articles, reports, and manuscripts that tell the words of army officers, scouts, Native Americans, and women offering their perspective on the tenuous relationship between the Americans and the Apaches. It was a continuous conflict that began to heat up right after the Civil War and that ended during the decade before the turn of the nineteenth century with the surrender of Geronimo


        Steve <tristan4th@yahoo. com> wrote:
        Greetings...
        Hope all are doing well & having a good week.
        I may have asked this before, but don't seem to find it in past
        messages.. But are there O.R.s for say, American Indian Wars, Mormon
        War, Spanish American War, ect.. as we have for American Civil War..???
        Hope not to lame of a question... I just need to do some further
        research, and was curious...
        Thanks for time & consideration. ..
        Capt. McCracken... ..



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      • NPeters102@aol.com
        In a message dated 5/4/2007 10:57:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tristan4th@yahoo.com writes: Thankyou very much! I will definately begin my search for it...
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          In a message dated 5/4/2007 10:57:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tristan4th@... writes:
                   Thankyou very much!  I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the "Apache Wars" are of my main interests!
          Capt. McCracken:
           
          "Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars, 1865—1890. Volume One: The Struggle for Apacheria," is the first part of a 5-volume series undertaken by Cozzens. And, unless you're lucky, it is QUITE expensive.
           
          Respectfully,

          Mike Peters
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        • Tom Mix
          Let me note that “Eyewitness…” is an excellent work. I highly recommend it. Tom ... From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
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            Let me note that “Eyewitness…” is an excellent work.  I highly recommend it.

            Tom

             

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            From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gilbert
            Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:47 AM
            To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Different O.R.s..???

             

            Capt. McCracken, Sir!

            Your question made me curious, too, so I looked around a little .. I found the following review on the Western History Quarterly Review site.  Might be worth looking into!

            ..Tom Gilbert

             

            Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars, 1865—1890. Volume One: The Struggle for Apacheria. Edited by Peter Cozzens. (Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 2001. xxxiv + 683 pp. Illustrations, maps, notes, index. $49.95.)

                 Historians researching the Indian Wars are not as fortunate as Civil War specialists are in that the latter are blessed with a wide range of available published source compilations such as the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion (Washington, DC, 1880—1901) and Battles and Leaders (New York, 1887—1888). Thanks to Peter Cozzens, research into the Apache Wars, and eventually other Native-American conflicts, has been made a bit easier. Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is the first of a projected five-volume compilation of first-person accounts amassed in the fashion of Battles and Leaders.

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                 While its Civil War protégé consists of articles reprinted from one source, Century Magazine, this volume of Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is an assembled collection of rarely seen narratives drawn from a wide variety of publications. The editor has gathered together letters, articles, reports, and manuscripts that tell the words of army officers, scouts, Native Americans, and women offering their perspective on the tenuous relationship between the Americans and the Apaches. It was a continuous conflict that began to heat up right after the Civil War and that ended during the decade before the turn of the nineteenth century with the surrender of Geronimo

             



            Steve <tristan4th@yahoo. com> wrote:

            Greetings...
            Hope all are doing well & having a good week.
            I may have asked this before, but don't seem to find it in past
            messages.. But are there O.R.s for say, American Indian Wars, Mormon
            War, Spanish American War, ect.. as we have for American Civil War..???
            Hope not to lame of a question... I just need to do some further
            research, and was curious...
            Thanks for time & consideration. ..
            Capt. McCracken... ..

             

             


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          • Tom Gilbert
            I have a shelf of my library at home dedicated to Indian history and warfare, including several Apache studies .. Two come to mind, and in case you don t
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              I have a shelf of my library at home dedicated to "Indian" history and warfare, including several Apache studies .. Two come to mind, and in case you don't have them, "Once They Moved Like the Wind", by David Roberts and "The Conquest of Apacheria" by Dan Trapp are both really great, and both are available at reasonable prices at Amazon .. I used them for research a few years ago for an article on the Bascom Affair of 1861 (had some Civil War connections).. tom g
              p.s. just thought of another one, "Life among the Apaches" John C. Cremony, also available at Amazon

              Steve Saultz <tristan4th@...> wrote:
                         Hi Tom...
                              Thankyou very much!  I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the "Apache Wars" are of my main interests!
                        Thanks again...
                          Capt. McCracken... ......

              Tom Gilbert <tommygeebassman@ yahoo.com> wrote:
              Capt. McCracken, Sir!
              Your question made me curious, too, so I looked around a little .. I found the following review on the Western History Quarterly Review site.  Might be worth looking into!
              ..Tom Gilbert
               
              Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars, 1865—1890. Volume One: The Struggle for Apacheria. Edited by Peter Cozzens. (Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 2001. xxxiv + 683 pp. Illustrations, maps, notes, index. $49.95.)
                   Historians researching the Indian Wars are not as fortunate as Civil War specialists are in that the latter are blessed with a wide range of available published source compilations such as the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion (Washington, DC, 1880—1901) and Battles and Leaders (New York, 1887—1888). Thanks to Peter Cozzens, research into the Apache Wars, and eventually other Native-American conflicts, has been made a bit easier. Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is the first of a projected five-volume compilation of first-person accounts amassed in the fashion of Battles and Leaders.1
                   While its Civil War protégé consists of articles reprinted from one source, Century Magazine, this volume of Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars is an assembled collection of rarely seen narratives drawn from a wide variety of publications. The editor has gathered together letters, articles, reports, and manuscripts that tell the words of army officers, scouts, Native Americans, and women offering their perspective on the tenuous relationship between the Americans and the Apaches. It was a continuous conflict that began to heat up right after the Civil War and that ended during the decade before the turn of the nineteenth century with the surrender of Geronimo


              Steve <tristan4th@yahoo. com> wrote:
              Greetings...
              Hope all are doing well & having a good week.
              I may have asked this before, but don't seem to find it in past
              messages.. But are there O.R.s for say, American Indian Wars, Mormon
              War, Spanish American War, ect.. as we have for American Civil War..???
              Hope not to lame of a question... I just need to do some further
              research, and was curious...
              Thanks for time & consideration. ..
              Capt. McCracken... ..



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            • Steve Saultz
              Hi Mike... Yes... They are a little taxed... Going anywhere from $35- $48... But by the size of the volumes, 600-800 pgs... I hope they re worth it! From what
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                               Hi Mike...
                                      Yes... They are a little taxed... Going anywhere from $35- $48... But by the size of the volumes, 600-800 pgs... I hope they're worth it!  From what I've read about them on ebay, so far they sound great..  Just having hard time locating "Vol. 1"... Lots of Vol. 3s..??
                      Anywhose... Thanks for the input!
                          Capt. McCracken........

                NPeters102@... wrote:
                In a message dated 5/4/2007 10:57:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tristan4th@yahoo. com writes:
                         Thankyou very much!  I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the "Apache Wars" are of my main interests!
                Capt. McCracken:
                 
                "Eyewitnesses to the Indian Wars, 1865—1890. Volume One: The Struggle for Apacheria," is the first part of a 5-volume series undertaken by Cozzens. And, unless you're lucky, it is QUITE expensive.
                 
                Respectfully,

                Mike Peters
                npeters102@aol. com




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              • keeno2@aol.com
                In a message dated 5/4/2007 9:57:13 AM Central Daylight Time, tristan4th@yahoo.com writes: Thankyou very much! I will definately begin my search for it...
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                  In a message dated 5/4/2007 9:57:13 AM Central Daylight Time, tristan4th@... writes:
                  Thankyou very much!  I will definately begin my search for it... Just so happens the "Apache Wars" are of my main interests!
                            Thanks again...
                              Capt. McCracken.........
                  Just checked abebooks.com. Seems volumes 1, 2, 3, and 5 are around. Also check hamiltonbooks. Didn't get around to ordering from them when their paper came around, and I haven't seen any lately.
                   
                  Sounds like they're popular. Don't wait too long.
                  Ken




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                • Bob Huddleston
                  The ORs are unique to the American Civil War -- no other war in history has published anything comparable. The Cozzen compilations mentioned do not begin to
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                    The ORs are unique to the American Civil War -- no other war in history has published anything comparable. The Cozzen compilations mentioned do not begin to compare. If you have not read it, I would highly recommend Aimone, _A User Guide to the Official Records...._ It is included in the Guild Press version but is worth purchasing in a letter press edition.
                     
                    The famous "Green Books" published by the Army after World War II were envisioned by Army  Chief of Staff Eisenhower to be the 20th Century version of the OR, with the realization that the volume of material created during World War II would be too great to allow a WW II OR.

                    Take care,

                    Bob

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                    From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
                    Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 5:16 PM
                    To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [civilwarwest] Different O.R.s..???

                    Greetings...
                    Hope all are doing well & having a good week.
                    I may have asked this before, but don't seem to find it in past
                    messages.. But are there O.R.s for say, American Indian Wars, Mormon
                    War, Spanish American War, ect.. as we have for American Civil War..???
                    Hope not to lame of a question... I just need to do some further
                    research, and was curious...
                    Thanks for time & consideration. ..
                    Capt. McCracken... ..

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