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Re: [civilwarwest] Redman's Non-Review of Simpson's Grant

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  • Robert Taubman
    Joseph, I m only about a 5th of the way into the book. I enjoy Brooks writing style and there is, IMHO, a nice flow to the text. I ve not the experience or
    Message 1 of 5 , May 8 4:15 AM
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      Joseph,

      I'm only about a 5th of the way into the book. I enjoy Brooks' writing style
      and there is, IMHO, a nice flow to the text. I've not the experience or the
      knowledge of particular battles that you and some others here have and probably
      would have problems separating the chaff from the wheat. That was my reasoning
      for asking about the book prior to reading it. I was looking for areas that
      raised questions in fact so that I may check what Brooks wrote and what other
      sources say.

      Will let you know my further thoughts when I have finished reading the book.

      Bob

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      From: <josepharose@...>
      To: <civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 1:05 AM
      Subject: [civilwarwest] Redman's Non-Review of Simpson's Grant


      | To all:
      |
      | Bob Redman just e-mailed me; at least, I am pretty sure it was him--
      | nowadays, it seems you can't always trust the names you see on posts
      | and e-mails, unlike the good old days of the mid-nineties.
      |
      | He just asked me to tell you all that the review written in his name
      | of Brooks Simpson's book on Amazon.com was a complete hoax. He also
      | stated that he didn't care for the book, which shouldn't come as much
      | of a surprise; Simpson seems to dislike the same people (e.g.,
      | Rosecrans and Thomas) that Grant did.
      |
      | I would like to know how Bob Taubman, among any others who have read
      | or are reading it, is finding the book. I have gone through large
      | portions and am very dissatisfied with the professor's writing. As a
      | case in point, he attempts to refute statements by Generals Banks and
      | Franklin concerning Grant's inebriation and injury at New Orleans by
      | asking irrelevant questions about why these men allowed Grant to do
      | what he did. The author also seems to take stands and then "proves"
      | them through the absence of evidence (e.g., If this person is
      | correct, than why doesn't anybody else say so?).
      |
      | Regarding Chattanooga, Simpson seems to want Grant to look good no
      | matter what the cost to the historical record. In an exchange of
      | posts with him, he made several unreasonable assertions to me.
      |
      | On a lighter note, I envy everyone who goes to the muster.
      |
      | Joseph
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      |
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    • laurarose1886@aol.com
      Brooks Simpson s book on Grant is an excellent and balanced treatment of this enigmatic, unique man, who accomplished what none of the others could, victory
      Message 2 of 5 , May 9 6:25 AM
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        Brooks Simpson's book on Grant is an excellent and balanced treatment of this
        enigmatic, unique man, who accomplished what none of the others could,
        victory and reunification of the country.  Simpson has spent years going
        through the archives and studying his subject. Unlike many other authors
        today, he is not a generalist jumping between centuries and wars, but rather
        a specialist who has earned his credential spurs under the glaring spotlight
        of the discerning community of professional historians.

        No matter how you look at it, Joseph and the rest of us are amateurs dabbling
        in hypotheses that are grounded in our own agendas, appetites, bias and the
        viewpoints formulated by our environment and value system.  We use history as
        a way to validate today and confirm our conclusions as well as tp stroke our
        hobbyist interest.   The professional, like Dr. Simpson, however,  is trained
        to set all that aside and look at evidence and under the myths and around the
        smoke screens.

        By contrast some of us get caught up in minutia and our own brilliance. We
        brush over that which we do not want to see because it conflicts with our
        preconceived cherished belief system.  I've learned to check the credentials
        of all authors before swallowing whatever he/she says.  I may debate an issue
        with others like myself, but in the end I want look to the professional for
        drawing a definitive conclusion.  So far, I can't find any fault with Dr.
        Simpson.  Now I am reading the new Smith biography on Grant which is very
        sympathetic to the General.  Wonder what Joseph will have to say about that
        one.  In addition, since he admits to *not* reading Simpson, his opinion on
        the book is nebulous at best.
      • hvonbork@aol.com
        We use history as a way to validate today and confirm our conclusions as well as tp stroke our hobbyist interest I certainly agree with that portion. By
        Message 3 of 5 , May 9 7:42 AM
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          We use history as
          a way to validate today and confirm our conclusions as well as tp stroke our
          hobbyist interest
               
                     I certainly agree with that portion.

          By contrast some of us get caught up in minutia and our own brilliance. We
          brush over that which we do not want to see because it conflicts with our
          preconceived cherished belief system

               Amen to that also.
               
                     Jack
        • marshaedavis@yahoo.com
          Good heavens it appears that some of us trolls are starting to speak up! *laughing out loud* I have read the book in question cover to cover. I throughly
          Message 4 of 5 , May 9 10:01 AM
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            Good heavens it appears that some of us 'trolls' are starting to
            speak up! *laughing out loud*
            I have read the book in question cover to cover. I throughly enjoyed
            it and I know I learned alot. But what the heck according to
            the "Redman & Plezia" Gang I am a troll!
            Sincerely
            M. Davis
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