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  • David Wall
    This is probably unknowable, since two people have claimed credit. It was however; not accidental. David Wall
    Message 1 of 54 , May 26, 2006
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      This is probably unknowable, since two people have claimed credit. It was
      however; not accidental.

      David Wall


      >From: "Ronald black" <rblack0981@...>
      >Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      >To: <civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com>
      >Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: Strength of Grant's last line
      >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 19:16:03 -0400
      >
      >Ray:
      >I believe you come closest of all. Shoup said he noticed a group of guns
      >above the Purdy road and he moved back, west, on the same road to bring
      >forward some guns that were not engaged. Since Shoup also said he did not
      >receive any orders from Ruggles, the group he formed was his efforts. At
      >least one of the batteries happened on the line of guns and joined them
      >without orders. Ruggles formed the northern group of guns as part of his
      >attack on the northern Duncan field and farm.
      >
      >Ron
      >
      >- Original Message -----
      > From: Ray Todd Knight
      > To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:21 PM
      > Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: Strength of Grant's last line
      >
      >
      > --- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald black" <rblack0981@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > I went to Shiloh to read the plaques concerning the artillery
      > emplacements. Since many of the original plagues are in the deep
      > woods, I had the thrill of walking deep into the woods off the beaten
      > path. It like visiting a park that very few other people have seen.
      > My enjoyment of the woods was only exceeded by the thrill of finding
      > those plaques, those lonely and seldom visited plaques. The Shiloh
      > battlefield still to this day, far exceeds any other in beauty and
      > natural settings (this despite not having seen Chickamauga/Chattanooga
      > yet). Did not see any of the crawling things you mention.
      > >
      > > By the way, the collection of original artillery pieces at Shiloh is
      > the third largest in the country and is also the largest, best and
      > finest gathering of confederate manufactured cannon in the United
      > States. Most are in Ruggles line, naturally.
      > >
      > > Here is another question for each and everyone of you, Who gets the
      > credit for forming the line of guns later called Ruggles line?
      > > 1. Brigadier General Daniel Ruggles 2.
      > Major Francis Shoup 3. General P. G. T. Beauregard
      > 4. Another officer (who)
      > > 5. An accidental gathering of guns
      > >
      > > Ron
      > > Hurrah for the guns
      > >
      >
      >
      > >From what I have been able to find out while trying to follow Cobb's
      > Battery it seems that the left part of the line was formed by Ruggles,
      > while the right end of the line was formed by Shoup, and that both
      > lines formed right about the same time by coincidence.
      >
      > Todd
      >
      >
      >
      >
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    • David Wall
      This is probably unknowable, since two people have claimed credit. It was however; not accidental. David Wall
      Message 54 of 54 , May 26, 2006
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        This is probably unknowable, since two people have claimed credit. It was
        however; not accidental.

        David Wall


        >From: "Ronald black" <rblack0981@...>
        >Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
        >To: <civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com>
        >Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Re: Strength of Grant's last line
        >Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 19:16:03 -0400
        >
        >Ray:
        >I believe you come closest of all. Shoup said he noticed a group of guns
        >above the Purdy road and he moved back, west, on the same road to bring
        >forward some guns that were not engaged. Since Shoup also said he did not
        >receive any orders from Ruggles, the group he formed was his efforts. At
        >least one of the batteries happened on the line of guns and joined them
        >without orders. Ruggles formed the northern group of guns as part of his
        >attack on the northern Duncan field and farm.
        >
        >Ron
        >
        >- Original Message -----
        > From: Ray Todd Knight
        > To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:21 PM
        > Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: Strength of Grant's last line
        >
        >
        > --- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald black" <rblack0981@...>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > I went to Shiloh to read the plaques concerning the artillery
        > emplacements. Since many of the original plagues are in the deep
        > woods, I had the thrill of walking deep into the woods off the beaten
        > path. It like visiting a park that very few other people have seen.
        > My enjoyment of the woods was only exceeded by the thrill of finding
        > those plaques, those lonely and seldom visited plaques. The Shiloh
        > battlefield still to this day, far exceeds any other in beauty and
        > natural settings (this despite not having seen Chickamauga/Chattanooga
        > yet). Did not see any of the crawling things you mention.
        > >
        > > By the way, the collection of original artillery pieces at Shiloh is
        > the third largest in the country and is also the largest, best and
        > finest gathering of confederate manufactured cannon in the United
        > States. Most are in Ruggles line, naturally.
        > >
        > > Here is another question for each and everyone of you, Who gets the
        > credit for forming the line of guns later called Ruggles line?
        > > 1. Brigadier General Daniel Ruggles 2.
        > Major Francis Shoup 3. General P. G. T. Beauregard
        > 4. Another officer (who)
        > > 5. An accidental gathering of guns
        > >
        > > Ron
        > > Hurrah for the guns
        > >
        >
        >
        > >From what I have been able to find out while trying to follow Cobb's
        > Battery it seems that the left part of the line was formed by Ruggles,
        > while the right end of the line was formed by Shoup, and that both
        > lines formed right about the same time by coincidence.
        >
        > Todd
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > SPONSORED LINKS American civil war Civil war United states
        > Civil war history Of the civil war United state army
        >
        >
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        >
        > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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        >
        > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
        >Service.
        >
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