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Re: [civilwarwest] Best Brigade in the West

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  • George Hall
    Great comments! I want to add that Larry Daniels speaks of Turchin s Brigade as the perfunctory Iron brigade of the Army of the Cumberland. George Hall
    Message 1 of 14 , Nov 22, 2004
      Great comments!  I want to add that Larry Daniels speaks of Turchin's Brigade as the perfunctory Iron brigade of the Army of the Cumberland.
         George Hall

      GnrlJEJohnston@... wrote:
      In a message dated 11/22/2004 10:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, ron@... writes:
      Anyone want to nominate a better brigade in the west?

      Ron Wright
      There were alot of outstanding brigades, both for the North and for the South.  Wilder's Brigade, Walcutt's Brigade, the Orphan Brigade, Conner's Brigade, Wirt Adams Brigade to name a few.  You cannot name a "best" brigade.  All brigades had their shining moments and then they had moments that they would like to forget about.  Too often, the most famous brigades were not necessarily the best brigades.  They did however, have a better PR section.
       

      Best Regards
      JEJ

      "I have realized in our country that one class of
      men makes war and leaves another to fight it out."
             - William T. Sherman






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    • carlw4514
      that s quite a statement... wonder if it was off-the-cuff, or do you find this in a book? if so, if not too much trouble, would like to see if he expands on
      Message 2 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
        that's quite a statement... wonder if it was off-the-cuff, or do you
        find this in a book? if so, if not too much trouble, would like to see
        if he expands on that a bit if you can post that, thanks

        Carl

        --- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "ron" <ron@s...> wrote:
        > "Cockrell's Missouri Brigade was the best on either side, including
        the Stonewall Brigade and the Iron Brigade of the North," has said Ed
        Bearss, former chief historian of the National Park Service. Anyone
        want to nominate a better brigade in the west?
        >
        > Ron Wright
      • banbruner@aol.com
        How about Wilders lightning brigade.
        Message 3 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
          How about Wilders lightning brigade.
        • DPowell334@AOL.COM
          I think two brigades deserve mention: Willich s Brigade (89th IL, 32nd IN, 15th and 49th OH) was an excellent brigade, with an outstanding brigadier. Willich
          Message 4 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
            I think two brigades deserve mention: Willich's Brigade (89th IL, 32nd IN, 15th and 49th OH) was an excellent brigade, with an outstanding brigadier. Willich was said to be able to handle his brigade like most men handled regiments.

            Second is Van Derveer's, including the 87th IN, 2nd Minn, 9th and 35th OH. The 2nd Minn and 9th Ohio were especially bold regiments.

            Dave Powell
          • SDE80@aol.com
            In a message dated 11/22/2004 10:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... It would be hard to argue with this statement, although the other nominees (Wilder s, Van
            Message 5 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
              In a message dated 11/22/2004 10:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, ron@... writes:

              "Cockrell's Missouri Brigade was the best on either side, including the Stonewall Brigade and the Iron Brigade of the North," has said Ed Bearss, former chief historian of the National Park Service.  Anyone want to nominate a better brigade in the west?


              It would be hard to argue with this statement, although the other nominees (Wilder's, Van Derveer's, etc) were formidable brigades.   The Missouri Brigade was a well-led, high morale unit.  I might add Reynolds' Arkansas brigade and Strahl's Tennessee brigade.  

              Sam Elliott
            • ron
              I guess Dr. Bearrs did not mind going out on a limb... ... From: GnrlJEJohnston@aol.com Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:27:24
              Message 6 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
                I guess Dr. Bearrs did not mind going out on a limb...

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                From: GnrlJEJohnston@...
                Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:27:24 EST

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                >In a message dated 11/22/2004 10:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
                >ron@... writes:
                >Anyone want to nominate a better brigade in the west?
                >
                >Ron Wright
                >There were alot of outstanding brigades, both for the North and for the
                >South. Wilder's Brigade, Walcutt's Brigade, the Orphan Brigade, Conner's Brigade,
                >Wirt Adams Brigade to name a few. You cannot name a "best" brigade. All
                >brigades had their shining moments and then they had moments that they would like
                >to forget about. Too often, the most famous brigades were not necessarily the
                >best brigades. They did however, have a better PR section.
                >
                >Best Regards
                >JEJ
                >
                >"I have realized in our country that one class of
                >men makes war and leaves another to fight it out."
                > - William T. Sherman
                >
                >





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              • ron
                I ll do some digging... ... From: carlw4514 Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:04:39 -0000 ...
                Message 7 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
                  I'll do some digging...


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                  Reply-To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:04:39 -0000

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                  >that's quite a statement... wonder if it was off-the-cuff, or do you<BR>
                  >find this in a book? if so, if not too much trouble, would like to see<BR>
                  >if he expands on that a bit if you can post that, thanks<BR>
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                  >Carl<BR>
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                  >--- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "ron" <ron@s...> wrote:<BR>
                  >> "Cockrell's Missouri Brigade was the best on either side, including<BR>
                  >the Stonewall Brigade and the Iron Brigade of the North," has said Ed<BR>
                  >Bearss, former chief historian of the National Park Service.  Anyone<BR>
                  >want to nominate a better brigade in the west?<BR>
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                • GnrlJEJohnston@aol.com
                  In a message dated 11/23/2004 5:58:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ron@sailsoutheast.org writes: I guess Dr. Bearrs did not mind going out on a limb... Did you
                  Message 8 of 14 , Nov 23, 2004
                    In a message dated 11/23/2004 5:58:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, ron@... writes:
                    I guess Dr. Bearrs did not mind going out on a limb...
                    Did you ever find a Marine that didn't mind going out on a limb.  Marines   As Ed would say, Semper Fi. Saluting The Flag 
                     

                    Best Regards
                    JEJ

                    "I have realized in our country that one class of
                    men makes war and leaves another to fight it out."
                           - William T. Sherman




                  • aot1952
                    Been working for a living lately and have missed out on keeping up with the fun! Like everyone, I have a personal favorite brigade. For me it is Lucien Polk s
                    Message 9 of 14 , Nov 24, 2004
                      Been working for a living lately and have missed out on keeping up
                      with the fun!
                      Like everyone, I have a personal favorite brigade. For me it is
                      Lucien Polk's (mixed) Brigade of Cleburne's Division. Composed of
                      the 1st Ark., 2ndTn.(Bate), 3rd & 5th Confederate (Irish) and 48th
                      Tn. (Voorehees). Other regiments were sometimes assigned. The 5th
                      Confederate has always been a personal favorite of mine.
                      Unfortunately none of the Memphis Irish were apparently literate
                      because there is very little first hand information .
                      Hope all have a GREAT Thanksgiving!
                      Even if it is a yankee holiday it is the best-
                      I could be wrong-
                      Wakefield
                    • GnrlJEJohnston@aol.com
                      In a message dated 11/24/2004 5:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, aot1952@yahoo.com writes: Even if it is a yankee holiday it is the best- I could be wrong-
                      Message 10 of 14 , Nov 24, 2004
                        In a message dated 11/24/2004 5:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, aot1952@... writes:
                        Even if it is a yankee holiday it is the best-
                        I could be wrong-
                        Wakefield
                        You are wrong Steve.  Jamestown, VA had their Thanksgiving feast approximately 13 years before those copy cat Yankees up in MA
                         

                        Best Regards
                        JEJ

                        "I have realized in our country that one class of
                        men makes war and leaves another to fight it out."
                               - William T. Sherman




                      • banbruner@aol.com
                        Message 11 of 14 , Nov 25, 2004
                        • banbruner@aol.com
                          John Wilders Lightning may not have been the best brigade or even my favorite but if I had to choose a brigade to go up against a division or even a small
                          Message 12 of 14 , Nov 25, 2004
                            John Wilders Lightning may not have been the "best" brigade or even my favorite but if I had to choose a brigade to go up against a division or even a small corps (Walkers at Alexanders Bridge, Chickamauga) I dont think I could better.
                              WHB
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