Re: Triumph & Defeat: The Vicksburg Campaign
- As to the slave, he is in the story. It seems that he was placed in
a tent and admission was charged to see him.
The mine was set off under the 3rd LA Redan on the 25th no details
on CSA units are given.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "carlw4514" <carlw4514@y...>
> Winschel was in a program once on BookTV [back in the good old days
> when BookTV had someone running the show who clearly was a Civil
> buff and constantly featured books on the war]. He talked quite abit
> about the siege operations, including the fact that the firstattempt
> to blow up trenchworks with blackpowder was at Vicksburg, notThe
> Petersburg. He included an anecdote about a slave working on a
> counter-mine that happened to be above the point of the explosion.
> poor fellow went flying in the air into the Union lines, survived,and
> became a sort of celebrity to the soldiers there. Winschel claimed,course.
> then, that the first astronaut was Afro/A., tongue in cheek of
> I forget what happened after the hole was blown in the lines!at
> Naturally both sides in the war had access to the study of siege
> operations, and although authors tend to emphasize that the Crater
> Petersburg achieved surprise [the Vicksburg blast is largelysiege
> forgotten] in fact in both cases the surprise could not have been
> complete as the Rebs were counter-mining. This is standard anti-
> operation which must have come from their own knowledge of what todo,
> but in both cases, at the Crater and at Vicksburg, they counter-mined
> too high and did not succeed in counter-acting the attempts. I putthe
> this down to inexperience. Also, at the Crater, the seriousness of
> situation was downplayed because the distance was known to be tooasphyxiate.
> great to successfully mine as at that distance the diggers
> But the Yanks had someone on their side who designed a device tosuck
> in fresh air through the action of a stove which burned at theopening
> but which got its oxygen from a pipe stuck down in the other end oflimits
> the mine. At Vicksburg I believe the distance was within known
> but the Graybacks were just countermining too high. If you've readmines
> the book already, James, perhaps you can confirm that.
> --- In 29014, "James2044" wrote [...] "Spades are Trump" provides a
> look > at siege operations
> > and the progress Grant's army was making toward reduction of the
> > defensive works. Scheduled was a major assault for July 6. The
> > closeness of siege lines to the defensive works, the several
> > in place, forced Vicksburg to surrendered rather than bestormed.
> > The story of the 1st Battalion, 13th U.S. Infantry both explainsthe
> > desperate initial attacks, the decision for a siege and ties theRedan
> > Civil War to the present day. This unit attacked the Stockade
> > on May 19 and today wears "First at Vicksburg" with pride [...]