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Re: Triumph & Defeat: The Vicksburg Campaign

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  • James2044
    As to the slave, he is in the story. It seems that he was placed in a tent and admission was charged to see him. The mine was set off under the 3rd LA Redan
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      As to the slave, he is in the story. It seems that he was placed in
      a tent and admission was charged to see him.

      The mine was set off under the 3rd LA Redan on the 25th no details
      on CSA units are given.

      James2044

      --- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "carlw4514" <carlw4514@y...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Winschel was in a program once on BookTV [back in the good old days
      > when BookTV had someone running the show who clearly was a Civil
      War
      > buff and constantly featured books on the war]. He talked quite a
      bit
      > about the siege operations, including the fact that the first
      attempt
      > to blow up trenchworks with blackpowder was at Vicksburg, not
      > Petersburg. He included an anecdote about a slave working on a
      > counter-mine that happened to be above the point of the explosion.
      The
      > poor fellow went flying in the air into the Union lines, survived,
      and
      > became a sort of celebrity to the soldiers there. Winschel claimed,
      > then, that the first astronaut was Afro/A., tongue in cheek of
      course.
      > I forget what happened after the hole was blown in the lines!
      >
      > Naturally both sides in the war had access to the study of siege
      > operations, and although authors tend to emphasize that the Crater
      at
      > Petersburg achieved surprise [the Vicksburg blast is largely
      > forgotten] in fact in both cases the surprise could not have been
      > complete as the Rebs were counter-mining. This is standard anti-
      siege
      > operation which must have come from their own knowledge of what to
      do,
      > but in both cases, at the Crater and at Vicksburg, they counter-
      mined
      > too high and did not succeed in counter-acting the attempts. I put
      > this down to inexperience. Also, at the Crater, the seriousness of
      the
      > situation was downplayed because the distance was known to be too
      > great to successfully mine as at that distance the diggers
      asphyxiate.
      > But the Yanks had someone on their side who designed a device to
      suck
      > in fresh air through the action of a stove which burned at the
      opening
      > but which got its oxygen from a pipe stuck down in the other end of
      > the mine. At Vicksburg I believe the distance was within known
      limits
      > but the Graybacks were just countermining too high. If you've read
      > the book already, James, perhaps you can confirm that.
      >
      > Carl
      >
      >
      > --- In 29014, "James2044" wrote [...] "Spades are Trump" provides a
      > look > at siege operations
      > > and the progress Grant's army was making toward reduction of the
      > > defensive works. Scheduled was a major assault for July 6. The
      > > closeness of siege lines to the defensive works, the several
      mines
      > > in place, forced Vicksburg to surrendered rather than be
      stormed.
      > > The story of the 1st Battalion, 13th U.S. Infantry both explains
      the
      > > desperate initial attacks, the decision for a siege and ties the
      > > Civil War to the present day. This unit attacked the Stockade
      Redan
      > > on May 19 and today wears "First at Vicksburg" with pride [...]
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