Re: [civilwarwest] Re: American Jewry in the Civil War..
It's not "racist groups", it's an overall thought process and sentiment.
While it was not organized, anti-semitism, just like anti-catholocism
existed and was just under the surface in many places both North and South.
I was not implying that it was organized. Grant was hardly a biggot, but his
order reflected the mood of the day to a great extent.
----- Original Message -----
From: "slippymississippi" <slippymississippi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: [civilwarwest] Re: American Jewry in the Civil War..
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "James L. Choron"
> <Lord_Jim@m...> wrote:
> > Tracy,
> > It will take me some time to find all of my sources, but I am
> > working on two articles that highlight this in one way or another. I
> > recommend that you look into Grant's order banning Jews from his
> theatre of
> > operations, and the underlying situation. This is a very good palce
> > begin.
> Sure... that's one instance of a single individual with no connection
> to either government outside his military service issuing a derisive
> order. While I'm sure that individuals harbored sentiments of this
> type, I was always under the impression that racist groups in the
> United States did not target the Jewish population until the early
> 20th century.
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- In addition, the Ammens lived up on the square in Georgetown and Jake got Grant interested in going to college. And becoming a math professor.Take care,
Judy and Bob Huddleston
10643 Sperry Street
Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
From: Martin Williams [mailto:williams484@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Political generalsJacob Ammen graduated from West Point in 1831, was assigned to the Artillery, and resigned from the Army in 1837. For much of that time he was detailed to West Point as a math instructor. As such, he arranged for his younger brother Daniel to sit in on some classes to prepare for the midshipman's entrance examination in the Navy (Daniel finished up as a rear admiral). Jacob spent must of his civilian career before the war as a college professor and the rest of it as a civil engineer.Federal generals who had first been Army officers and then politicians included Fremont, Ryan, Stevens and Dix. The only Rebel I can think of at the moment who was in the same situation was Withers.----- Original Message -----From: John BeattySent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:12 AMSubject: [civilwarwest] Political generalsTheres a new work, "War Within the Union High Command"
by Thomas Goss that discusses political generals in
some detail. The crux of his thesis is that political
generals were excellent at enhancing enlistment and
keeping up the faith to the folks at home, but most
were less than stellar. Interestingly, he also shows
that some knew their limitations.
Jacob Amman, a childhood freind of Grant, was also
politically appointed without military training, as
were all but one of his division commanders at Shiloh.
But then again, Grant owed his commission to Elihu
Wasburne, not to a steady sucession in rank. To say
that Grant was "bigoted" against political generals is
thus ridiculous, since practically all of them were
politically appointed. He did have a problem,
however, with incompetence.
John D. Beatty, Milwaukee Wisconsin
"History is the only test for the consequences of ideas"
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