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  • cob2mo
    Sorry folks, anything east of the Mississippi is Eastern Theater to me Must bow out. Please don t think I am upset with any of you, as I am not. I know a good
    Message 1 of 8 , Jul 3, 2000
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      Sorry folks, anything east of the Mississippi is Eastern Theater to me> Must
      bow out. Please don't think I am upset with any of you, as I am not. I know
      a good deal of you from the chat room and will "see" you there.
      Regards
      CoB
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "cob2mo" <cob2mo@...>
      To: <civilwarwest@egroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 1:56 AM
      Subject: [civilwarwest] Re:UNSUBSCRIBE


      > Not enough western theater for me. Sorry!
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "J Clink" <ncanfield@...>
      > To: <civilwarwest@egroups.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:02 PM
      > Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Hard hand of war.
      >
      >
      > > Thanks for the info! I haven't really done a lot of reading about
      military
      > > tactics and practices. I do know that Napolean drafted people, but more
      > out of
      > > necessity -- which I guess is always the case. The book I read marked
      the
      > > decline of Napolean's success with the killing off of his veterans
      through
      > > near-continual war. (Wish I had the book at hand...) Because his army
      did
      > use
      > > quite a few innovative tactics, once the well-trained were gone, there
      > wasn't
      > > time to train their replacements as thoroughly.
      > >
      > > My main point, though, was more about the Civil War having been taken
      very
      > > personally by a good many of its soldiers. ('Course, apparently the
      > conscripts
      > > wouldn't be the most committed!) So-called True Believers in any war
      seem
      > to
      > > intensify the bloodshed. It seems in a democracy, if the
      citizen-soldiers
      > > actually VOTED for or against the war, they'd feel more personally
      > involved.
      > >
      > > I know there's a lot I don't know, though!
      > >
      > > Jeanette
      > >
      > > nils.feller@... wrote:
      > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: J Clink <ncanfield@...>
      > > > To: <civilwarwest@egroups.com>
      > > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:39 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Hard hand of war.
      > > >
      > > > > About the democracies -- I read a book on military tactics (just one
      > > > tho -- not an
      > > > > expert), and in Europe, which served as a model for McClellan and
      the
      > U.S.
      > > > military
      > > > > in general, many of the wars were fought by hired professionals
      rather
      > > > than the
      > > > > general population. There were instances of conscription, but
      nothing
      > like
      > > > what was
      > > > > instituted by both the U.S. and the Confederacy during the CW. In
      > Europe,
      > > > most
      > > > > people didn't feel they had a personal stake in the war.
      > > >
      > > > Jeanette,
      > > > a very interesting post, but one correction seems to be necessary:
      What
      > you
      > > > write about conscription in Europe is true for the 18th century, but
      not
      > the
      > > > 19th.
      > > > The Napoleonic Wars served as proof to military reformers like
      > Scharnhorst
      > > > and Gneisenau that future wars were to be fought by armies of
      > conscripts,
      > > > the French Army of the Revolution having served as an example.
      > > > In Prussia, compulsory military service for all men between 20 and 40
      > had
      > > > been introduced in 1814. It soon became the rule in all German states,
      > > > indeed in all of Europe, and by the middle of the 19th century,
      > volunteer
      > > > armies were the exception rather than the rule. Actually, by the end
      of
      > the
      > > > century, only Britain and the US among the more important powers had
      no
      > > > system of conscription (which I personally would see rather positive).
      I
      > > > hope my post doesn't seem to be too narrow-minded!
      > > > Nils
      > > >
      > >
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