- ... serve ... Probably? I would think that he was clearly in the top five general officers (two stars or more) in the West, and probably in the Union army.Message 1 of 115 , Jul 31, 2003View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Dave Smith" <dmsmith001@y...>
> This is what happens when one is out of the loop (Band Camp) forserve
> several days.
> Without having read the *numerous* responses, I'd simply note that
> Thomas, IMO, was one of a number of excellent Union officers to
> in the west, and ranks probably in the upper five or so.Probably? I would think that he was clearly in the top five general
officers (two stars or more) in the West, and probably in the Union
> I would not put him above Grant or Sherman, however. Both of theirThomas
> overall accomplishments in the West clearly outweigh anything
> can lay claim to.Agreed, with reservations. Thomas was a superior battlefield
commander to Sherman. Both saw much of their action in that role as
subordinates; Grant was always in charge in his battles.
> The problem with this group is that there is a tendency at times byI could not have put it better myself.
> some poster(s) to work their respective darndest to denigrate Grant
> and Sherman in order to drag the two down to Thomas's level - not
> that there is anything wrong with Thomas's level anyway.
- In a message dated 8/1/2003 7:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... I agree with this Bob, but if Thomas had attacked when Grant kept on ordering him, it is aMessage 115 of 115 , Aug 1, 2003View SourceIn a message dated 8/1/2003 7:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rtaubman@... writes:
to attack regardless of the circumstances, Grant's perception of Thomas,
and Thomas's refusal frustrated Grant. I believe Grant was completely
within his right as CIC to make such an order, I certainly won't/can't argue
I agree with this Bob, but if Thomas had attacked when Grant kept on ordering him, it is a good possibility that the attack would have failed. According to reports, the ground was so icy after an ice storm, that even the horses could not stand up, let alone a soldier trying to march. Grant was not aware of these severe weather conditions and IIRC the ice storm also knocked out the telegraph lines so Thomas was not able to notify Grant of the conditions. Once the weather cleared and conditions improved, Thomas did attack and was successful.