Re: Shiloh Geography 101
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "josepharose" <josepharose@y...>
> Grant contradicts you: "The position of our troops made a
> line from Lick Creek on the left to Owl Creek, a branch of SnakeOur discussion was about what constituted the front and what
> Creek, on the right, facing nearly south and possibly a little west
> [although he lied about the line's being continuous]." If Grant
> considered Stuart to be part of his line, why shouldn't you?
constituted the flank. As I see it, the Grant comment you quoted
does not provide any clarity on this issue beyond stating that Lick
Creek was on the left and Owl Creek on the right.
> Besides, it would have been awfully stupid to march Wallace to theFrom the Landing, Wallace would be in position to advance to the
> landing, where he would pass the roads to Sherman and to the front.
support of any portion of the fighting.
> If you need more proof, Sherman, who wasn't even directly involvedup
> in this controversy, agreed with everyone except Grant and Rawlins;
> he wrote in his memoirs: "He [Grant] also told me that on his way
> from Savannah that morning he had stopped at Crump's Landing, andThe timing of when Grant told this to Sherman is not clear to me. By
> had ordered Lew Wallace's division to cross over Snake Creek, so as
> to come up on my right, telling me to look out for him."
midday, when Sherman's position was to the rear of where it started,
Sherman was to look for Wallace's coming which would certainly be on
his right, in fact Rowley mentions that Sherman would ensure the
security of the bridge on the River Road. Sherman wrote that at the
end of the day "my right then covered the bridge over Snake Creek by
which we had all day been expecting Lew Wallace", indicating that he
understood that Wallace had always been expected to arrive by the
> No one, excepting Grant and his ambiguous claims, stated thatBaxter stated that the order was "to march his command at once by the
> Wallace was to go the landing itself. No one, not even Baxter who
> wrote out the orders, mentioned the rear of Smith's camps, as
> Rawlins did. Everyone else explicitly mentions a position on
> Sherman's right flank or generally describes a location which does
> not conflict with that position.
River Road to Pittsburg Landing" and Rawlins also stated that Wallace
was to move to Pittsburg Landing, thus indicating that your above
remark was incorrect. Rawlins also mentions the rear of Smith's
camps, which is where the River Road intersects with the main roads
to the front.
- --- In email@example.com, GnrlJEJohnston@a... wrote:
> ...Lewis Cass (first governor ofHe was also a general in the war of 1812, Secretary of War under
> Michigan I believe)...
Jackson, Secretary of State under Buchanan [until he resigned during
the secession crisis] and the Democratic Party's Presidential
Candidate in 1848 (lost to Taylor), in addition to a bunch of other
sutff (amassador, congressman, senator)