Re: Lew Wallace's Destination
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Will" <wh_keene@y...>
> --- In email@example.com, "josepharose"<josepharose@y...>
> > ...
> > Do you, therefore, just dismiss Grant's statement regarding
> > distances? What did he mean by that?
> See what I wrote before:
> > > The reference to "right" which you have fixated on is in the
> > footnote
> > > where Grant provides a rationale for why Wallace did what
> > If
> > > the order was received as Wallace claimed (though not as
> > > intended) then, Grant suggests, the route of march madesome
> > sense.you
> > Even though every major actor used the word "right," neither
> norup the
> > Grant seem able to define exactly where Wallace was to go.
> Incorrect. Grant was clear on where he wanted Wallace to go:
> River Road to Pittsburg Landing.opinion.
> > I trust that you are not stating that Wallace was given no more
> > explicit instructions than that. Please, tell me where Grant
> > Wallace to go, and list the evidence which confirms that
> As stated above, Grant wished Wallace to march up the River
> Pittsburg Landing. This is the version given by all the actors atBaxter,
> the sending end of the message: Grant, Rawlins, Rowley,
> > Wallace's "rear" was roughly to the north, as he was headed
> > I would think that the fighting was never to his rear even bythe
> > most liberal interpretation: that being any point behind abe
> > perpendicular drawn from the line of movement.
> By this measure, which I think is a good one, the fighting would
> in his rear as he got near Snake Creek. The Shunpike headsin a
> westerly direction until it crosses Snake Creek.Actually it moves in a westerly direction until it crosses Clear
Creek, which is about where Rowley caught up to him and where
Wallace decided to countermarch. He thought he was at Owl
Creek, as the account of the NMP historian makes clear, but he
was still 3-4 miles away, with a fairly strong Confederate force in
When Rowley caught
> up with him, Wallace's rear was faced back toward theTennessee and
> the firing was not coming from the direction he was heading.made no
> > The order was seen by the aides. As the aides evidently
> > mention of the River Road, they would have not been tellingthe
> > truth if that is what the orders actually stated.matter
> That is not the only possibility. When their opinion on this
> was requested, it had been six years since they saw the order.They
> had no surviving copy of the order to refer to. Do youremember
> perfectly things that you read in the spring of 1997?The other thing which is odd about the remembrances is that
Wallace's later version of the orders, about 40 yrs. later, was
remarkably similar to Rawlins from a yr. later, except for the
exclusion of the actual Rd. and a couple of other telling details.
This was why Rich, in his 1911 book, found Wallace's memory
was probably incorrect and he used Rawlins version as the
basis for his own.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, GnrlJEJohnston@a... wrote:
> ...Lewis Cass (first governor ofHe was also a general in the war of 1812, Secretary of War under
> Michigan I believe)...
Jackson, Secretary of State under Buchanan [until he resigned during
the secession crisis] and the Democratic Party's Presidential
Candidate in 1848 (lost to Taylor), in addition to a bunch of other
sutff (amassador, congressman, senator)