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Re: [civilwarwest] Hood and Franklin

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  • Chris Huff
    Dear Folks, ... Who knows? It could have been Hood s attempt at spin, but the quote comes straight out of his autobiography, Advance & Retreat . Hood further
    Message 1 of 141 , Sep 1, 2000
      Dear Folks,

      Andy wrote:

      > I'm fairly certain that the arty wasn't up yet, except for a few
      > pieces. I seem to recall Sword maintaining that some rounds landed well
      > inside the town, causing a few civilian casualties, but I may be
      > completely mistaken about that.
      > Andy

      Who knows? It could have been Hood's attempt at spin, but the quote comes
      straight out of his autobiography, "Advance & Retreat".

      Hood further writes in his autobiography "Lee's corps, as it arrived, was
      held in reserve, owing to the lateness of the hour and my inability,
      consequently, to post it on the extreme left."

      Dr. McMurry's book also mentions (almost as an aside) that Lee hadn't had
      time to catch up and deploy before the battle.

      I don't doubt that there was a frenzy to attack from everything I have read
      about the situation. Just forty minutes before he died Major General Cleburn
      rode up and stated to Gen. Hood, "General, I am ready, and have more hope in
      the final success of our cause than I have had at any time since the first
      gun was fired." Sounds like he was ready to fight.

      Gen. Hood continues in his book, "Nightfall which closed upon us so soon
      after the inauguration of the battle prevented the formation and
      participation of Lee's entire corps on the extreme left. This, it may safely
      be asserted, saved Shofield's army from destruction." Then he states, rather
      uncharitably "I might, with equal assurance, assert that had Lieutenant
      General Lee been in advance at Spring Hill the previoius afternoon,
      Shofields's army never would have passed that point." Ooooo. Now that was

      Chris Huff
      Atlanta, GA
    • Ronald black
      Tom; They say that timing is everything but you don t quite have it right. W.H.L. Wallace was wounded late in the day, about 5:00 pm during the withdrawal of
      Message 141 of 141 , Feb 28, 2007
        They say that timing is everything but you don't quite have it right.  W.H.L. Wallace was wounded late in the day, about 5:00 pm during the withdrawal of his troops and while they were in the process of being trapped by the confederates.  There is a possibility that he may have been captured if he was not wounded.  Wallace's division took position at 10:00 am in the Duncan field and the western portion of the sunken road.  They held until about 4:00 pm, the retreat began first with the artillery, then the regiments started pulling back.  At this time, they started to come disorganized while in the withdrawal, those still in front line positions continued to hold for a short while longer.  The balance of units fighting at the front after 5:00 pm were commanded by Prentiss and he had troops from all three divisions and they were coming unglued.  The surrenders started shortly, about 5:30.  
        As to Grant and the sunken road, I believe that he had very little to do with the selection of this lane as a position.  At 10:00 am, Wallace and Hurlbut ordered and put their troops in position along this lane and placed Prentiss' survivors between them.  Grant only approved their choice of position.  Actuall the Official Reports are mostly silent about Grant and this position.  
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        From: Tom Mix
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        Subject: FW: [civilwarwest] Re: Shiloh



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        From: Tom Mix [mailto:tmix@ insightbb. com]
        Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:32 AM
        To: 'civilwarwest@ yahoogroups. com'
        Subject: RE: [civilwarwest] Re:


        I agree completely in what your saying about how they ended up in the lane. They sort of “fell” together there. But Grant did recognize something about the position that made a defense plausible then set it as the official design for defense.  I have found it highly creditable as to how Will Wallace’s unit maintained a degree of order after their commander’s mortal wound, the heavy attack confronting them, the confusion surrounding the soldiers, the terrain limits and such and yet they stay together, re-establish order, establish a defensive line and coordinate with Prentiss.  It speaks well for the more junior officers of the Division. And Grant’s personal involvement.


        If any one walks the road one of the first things that becomes very apparent is that it is not “sunken” any where.  The fencing, the tree line, the slight undulation kind of creating a natural rallying point, I would guess, for those who were not high tailing it to the rear. As I think about those men in blue at that specific moment, I am always impressed with their courage, clarity of purpose and ability to keep their heads while those all around them were losing their’s, literally and figuratively.  I would guess that seeing Grant at the front amidst all the smoke, noise, trees, chaos, disorder and death must have had a positive effect on the men too. I think it could be equated to the response to Hancock 1 July  1863, IMO.


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